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Y&R: January 2014 Discussion Thread

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And YR has every right to say that Miller's demands don't work for them. Although BM was not fired, YR did cut him loose by not agreeing to his demands. In any event, everything worked out as it should. He's gone and David Tom is back signed to a multi year contract, so they don't have to work stories around an actor who is gone to look for a better job. The writers can now write the stories and let them flow.

Of course they have every right, as I said both sides couldn't agree but BM shouldn't be attacked especially given the horrible state of show right now. I would probably want to leave too.

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Of course they have every right, as I said both sides couldn't agree but BM shouldn't be attacked especially given the horrible state of show right now. I would probably want to leave too.

I doubt the state of the show had anything to do with his decision to leave. Most actors (if not all) don't think that way.

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Were you watching the last two years? He was off more than anyone so no he didn't have a right to ask for more time off he was already off too much as it was and it hurt the writing and everyone who had to be in stories with him. And it was so obvious Y&R was not his number 1 focus.

Have YOU been watching?

7. Billy Miller (Billy Abbott) 131.

Only 6 more people wore on more than Billy Miller last year. He was more on than off.

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Of course they have every right, as I said both sides couldn't agree but BM shouldn't be attacked especially given the horrible state of show right now. I would probably want to leave too.

Who's attacking? By mentioning BM, I've already given the impression that I care what he does. I don't!

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Have YOU been watching?

7. Billy Miller (Billy Abbott) 131.

Only 6 more people wore on more than Billy Miller last year. He was more on than off.

I shudder to think how much he would have been on if he hadn't had these prolonged absences that was detrimental to the story. I can't remember if it was this year or last year that the Victoria kidnapping happened. What a disjointed piece of mess that was. It got to the point that when he was on, it was just to stand around and pontificate. No real story involving him could be penned because he was barely around.

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Have YOU been watching?

7. Billy Miller (Billy Abbott) 131.

Only 6 more people wore on more than Billy Miller last year. He was more on than off.

Yes I've been watching. He'd leave, they'd twist some ridiculous story as an excuse for Billy to be out of town and then double up on him again when he returned

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I shudder to think how much he would have been on if he hadn't had these prolonged absences that was detrimental to the story. I can't remember if it was this year or last year that the Victoria kidnapping happened. What a disjointed piece of mess that was. It got to the point that when he was on, it was just to stand around and pontificate. No real story involving him could be penned because he was barely around.

In other words it was Billy Miller's fault that Billy Abbott's stories were disjointed because he was "barely" around? I guess since DT is there full-time none of Billy's stories should be disjointed? And if so whose fault will it be then?

I don't blame BM for wanting more money from Y&R because at the end of the day they could've killed his character off with him being on contract. I also don't blame Y&R for getting another actor to play Billy because they didn't want to pay BM what he thought he deserve to make.

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In other words it was Billy Miller's fault that Billy Abbott's stories were disjointed because he was "barely" around? I guess since DT is there full-time none of Billy's stories should be disjointed? And if so whose fault will it be then?

I don't blame BM for wanting more money from Y&R because at the end of the day they could've killed his character off with him being on contract. I also don't blame Y&R for getting another actor to play Billy because they didn't want to pay BM what he thought he deserve to make.

Actually, YR offered Miller an increase, which he would have gladly taken and worked less than everyone else. Money wasn't the issue. Miller's outs were a problem for the overall show, so a decision had to be made. YR made the correct one. These shows have catered to the divas long enough.

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I shudder to think how much he would have been on if he hadn't had these prolonged absences that was detrimental to the story. I can't remember if it was this year or last year that the Victoria kidnapping happened. What a disjointed piece of mess that was. It got to the point that when he was on, it was just to stand around and pontificate. No real story involving him could be penned because he was barely around.

Again he was barely around yet appeared in more episodes than all but 6 of his cast mates.

Actually, YR offered Miller an increase, which he would have gladly taken and worked less than everyone else. Money wasn't the issue. Miller's outs were a problem for the overall show, so a decision had to be made. YR made the correct one. These shows have catered to the divas long enough.

And he has catered to horrible writing long enough. They both got they wanted.

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Again he was barely around yet appeared in more episodes than all but 6 of his cast mates.

And he has catered to horrible writing long enough. They both got they wanted.

Horrible writing, mediocre "actor". It all worked out for the best :)

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Yeah but unfortunately he was one of their better actors. IMO

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Could Billy threaten Adam and Adam confesses and Billy tells him leave GC and never return

Then 6 months from now we get a new Adam?

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In other words it was Billy Miller's fault that Billy Abbott's stories were disjointed because he was "barely" around? I guess since DT is there full-time none of Billy's stories should be disjointed? And if so whose fault will it be then?

I don't blame BM for wanting more money from Y&R because at the end of the day they could've killed his character off with him being on contract. I also don't blame Y&R for getting another actor to play Billy because they didn't want to pay BM what he thought he deserve to make.

Yes, I blame Billy Miller's absences for his story being disjointed. Not to say that he is only to blame for it because TPTB did allow him to come and go as he pleased. It's not like we are talking about KSJ, whom MAB could only be bothered to show on Wednesdays. We are talking about the beau of the ball who got as much airtime and story as the budget would allow. If his story was disjointed, it was because he was not there. Not because TPTB didn't want to feature him or write for him.

And by the way, money was not what BM wanted. He wanted outs. They threw more money at him but he declined because money was not the issue. He wanted to be able to shop around for more work, or even better, his next regular gig. Money was never the issue.

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