Very quiet week. Welcome to the Summer Slump of choppy, sliced, and cut shows. A 3rd show has to happen for the show to survive and PP give it a 2nd year season. There has to be another episode. 2 episodes per week at only 22-24 minutes per episode does not even add up to a 60 minute show. 48 minutes tops and that is just too sad. When it is reduced from 4 episodes per week at 96 minutes to 2 episodes per week all the way down to just 48 minutes, well is not a good thing in the long run of it with hoping that PP will renew the show for a 2nd season. Right now the show is pushing cancellation instead of pushing for a renewal 2nd season. AMC has to pick up the pace, big time. They have to start moving on to other characters and storylines pretty quickly here. Pretty soon it will be the fall months and that will be the real test of whether to cancel or extend the show.

Just the Summer Slump Drag and Sag right now. LIke kind of in a lull.

Whoa I just said it was a quieter week than some other- not a bad week & I don't agree the show is in any kind of summer slump or felt choppy this week at all. How is the show "pushing cancellation?" They just got a TV deal. They likely got overwhelmed production-wise and cut the episodes down to cut costs & give everyone some breathing room- I really at this point don't believe it was with cancellation as the ultimate plan.

I want PP to do what they can afford & what will make the shows feasible for them to keep running. If that's 50 minutes, I will adjust & be fine with that. Yesterday, you accused any of us who posted anything was not "Jesse and Angie #1 forever" of being Frons supporters. But you're the one constantly saying the show is on the edge of cancellation & has all these problems instead of seeing the hugely positive aspects that many of us see about the show that is only 10 weeks in. You constantly ask us why we hate Jesse and are anti-Jesse (which we aren't) but really it seems like you're anti-AMC & want cancellation if its not Jesse & Angie happy and on your terms.

Edited July 11, 201312 yr by greens_dupres

I loved Soul Train and that is where I got my first introduction to Darnell Williams.

I am a dedicated and loyal Angie and Jesse supporter and make no apologies for it.

And what in the world does Soul Train have to do with this week's AMC?

looks like this thread got hijacked...

It did feel a quieter AMC week- I guess that makes some sense with the Cassandra in jeopardy portion of that story over but I hope maybe in the fall we get a third ep. I expect at the very least the eps filmed post hiatus will have tighter pacing. Right now, I guess I'll take a little slower of a week over choppy edits.

I was the same with Kendall- didn't expect to be excited to see her but then really enjoyed the little scene & hope she pops up again. I assume Spike is with Ryan? Honestly, the youngest of Bianca and Kendall were so unnecessary to me that I just don't care if they give them the lost Martin child treatment

I could live with three a week. I assume if OWN decides to do more episodes after their Summer batch, they may hike up the weekly count (though I am not sure what rules Hulu has--if any--about how much in advance they get to air them.)

Ha it's true, Ian and Gaby aren't really needed, but it does seem odd (I know Bianca mentioned Gaby but for the life of me I can't remember what she said about her.)

Very quiet week. Welcome to the Summer Slump of choppy, sliced, and cut shows. A 3rd show has to happen for the show to survive and PP give it a 2nd year season. There has to be another episode. 2 episodes per week at only 22-24 minutes per episode does not even add up to a 60 minute show. 48 minutes tops and that is just too sad. When it is reduced from 4 episodes per week at 96 minutes to 2 episodes per week all the way down to just 48 minutes, well is not a good thing in the long run of it with hoping that PP will renew the show for a 2nd season. Right now the show is pushing cancellation instead of pushing for a renewal 2nd season. AMC has to pick up the pace, big time. They have to start moving on to other characters and storylines pretty quickly here. Pretty soon it will be the fall months and that will be the real test of whether to cancel or extend the show.

Just the Summer Slump Drag and Sag right now. LIke kind of in a lull.

I don't think these are sliced and cut, really. And last week, for me was far from a slump--your predictions are awfully fatalistic

I could live with three a week. I assume if OWN decides to do more episodes after their Summer batch, they may hike up the weekly count (though I am not sure what rules Hulu has--if any--about how much in advance they get to air them.)

Ha it's true, Ian and Gaby aren't really needed, but it does seem odd (I know Bianca mentioned Gaby but for the life of me I can't remember what she said about her.)

I don't think these are sliced and cut, really. And last week, for me was far from a slump--your predictions are awfully fatalistic

not unless Gabby and Ian are aged to teens, since I did hear that Gabby is now 13, so that means Ian is about 14..

Whoa I just said it was a quieter week than some other- not a bad week & I don't agree the show is in any kind of summer slump or felt choppy this week at all. How is the show "pushing cancellation?" They just got a TV deal. They likely got overwhelmed production-wise and cut the episodes down to cut costs & give everyone some breathing room- I really at this point don't believe it was with cancellation as the ultimate plan.

I want PP to do what they can afford & what will make the shows feasible for them to keep running. If that's 50 minutes, I will adjust & be fine with that. Yesterday, you accused any of us who posted anything was not "Jesse and Angie #1 forever" of being Frons supporters. But you're the one constantly saying the show is on the edge of cancellation & has all these problems instead of seeing the hugely positive aspects that many of us see about the show that is only 10 weeks in. You constantly ask us why we hate Jesse and are anti-Jesse (which we aren't) but really it seems like you're anti-AMC & want cancellation if its not Jesse & Angie happy and on your terms.

+1

Although that does kinda depress me that, I guess we'd be6 and a half weeks in if they were still airing 4 a week? But...I'm loving the show, so I'll survive the "Summer slump"

The irony is that I can go from liking to hating David and back again a million times during one show. I hate when he's plays the ISaveLives martyr or when he does something like verbally attack Cara but I love when he does something like the way he read Dixie. David is one of my favorite characters because he can make me hate and love him at the same time and frankly Jesse's been doing the same which has made enjoy this version of him immensely.

Right, and this is a sign of good soap IMHO. I never get people who feel so extremely one way about a character (well, except when the character is simply terribly written and acted, but you know what I mean) let alone a couple. How boring is that.

If I remember right, the reduced ep announcement was made on a Thursday afternoon in mid-May and AMC finished their final taping cycle the next day. The following Monday OLTL returned until the labor dispute ended their cycle a few days early. So as far as AMC, you've likely seen editing that reflects the new schedule but really no eps that were actually produced following the transition

I think that's right--so we likely won't see the episodes written for the new time pace till Sep--with the new writers as well (that announcement was made post the filming too, wasn't it?) Of course maybe they'll decide to up it to 3 or more eps a week by then

I could live with three a week. I assume if OWN decides to do more episodes after their Summer batch, they may hike up the weekly count (though I am not sure what rules Hulu has--if any--about how much in advance they get to air them.)

Ha it's true, Ian and Gaby aren't really needed, but it does seem odd (I know Bianca mentioned Gaby but for the life of me I can't remember what she said about her.)

I don't think these are sliced and cut, really. And last week, for me was far from a slump--your predictions are awfully fatalistic

Whoa I just said it was a quieter week than some other- not a bad week & I don't agree the show is in any kind of summer slump or felt choppy this week at all. How is the show "pushing cancellation?" They just got a TV deal. They likely got overwhelmed production-wise and cut the episodes down to cut costs & give everyone some breathing room- I really at this point don't believe it was with cancellation as the ultimate plan.

I want PP to do what they can afford & what will make the shows feasible for them to keep running. If that's 50 minutes, I will adjust & be fine with that. Yesterday, you accused any of us who posted anything was not "Jesse and Angie #1 forever" of being Frons supporters. But you're the one constantly saying the show is on the edge of cancellation & has all these problems instead of seeing the hugely positive aspects that many of us see about the show that is only 10 weeks in. You constantly ask us why we hate Jesse and are anti-Jesse (which we aren't) but really it seems like you're anti-AMC & want cancellation if its not Jesse & Angie happy and on your terms.

About the Episode Difference. here is a projection I created regarding the episode difference:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvipZf7pCGQrdDViWENHeFZjN0ZWekhyUjY2eW5LcGc#gid=0

The irony is that I can go from liking to hating David and back again a million times during one show. I hate when he's plays the ISaveLives martyr or when he does something like verbally attack Cara but I love when he does something like the way he read Dixie. David is one of my favorite characters because he can make me hate and love him at the same time and frankly Jesse's been doing the same which has made enjoy this version of him immensely.

I think a lot of people feel this way about David. I know I do too. I have moments when I want to slap that smug smirk right off of his face, and other times I want to stand up and cheer because he pointed out someone else's hypocrisy in a much-needed sort of way. Honestly, I feel the same way about Erica and Adam too - sometimes I absolutely adore them and other times I want to yell at them for being so absolutely ridiculous. That ability to inspire love and hate makes them enduring characters. For me personally Jesse isn't in that same category, but I don't despise him or want him out of town or anything. I reserve that kind of dislike for Dixie.

Gettin' real tired of Linda imagining a "summer slump" and cancellation danger that no one else anywhere is backing up just because Angie and Jesse are on the rocks.

Gettin' real tired of Linda imagining a "summer slump" and cancellation danger that no one else anywhere is backing up just because Angie and Jesse are on the rocks.

Wrong, wrong, wrong you are here. My very own thoughts have absolutely nothing to do with my Jesse and Angie at all. It is an overall thought, that's all.

Thoughts and opinions are not designed to be "backed up", instead they are ideas to be debated on, discussed to varying degrees by individuals alone and not necessarily a peer pressure thing to go along to get along to be in a group.

I never get tired of reading poster postings because at times they are all repetitous and mundane and say the same thing with the same thoughts and that is just freedom of expression to which I respect. That is what makes a world go around and around.

Vee: I respect your postings, regardless.

I think a lot of people feel this way about David. I know I do too. I have moments when I want to slap that smug smirk right off of his face, and other times I want to stand up and cheer because he pointed out someone else's hypocrisy in a much-needed sort of way. Honestly, I feel the same way about Erica and Adam too - sometimes I absolutely adore them and other times I want to yell at them for being so absolutely ridiculous. That ability to inspire love and hate makes them enduring characters. For me personally Jesse isn't in that same category, but I don't despise him or want him out of town or anything. I reserve that kind of dislike for Dixie.

Jesse Hubbard is an Agnes Nixon creation, one of her babies. He is a Major Core Legacy Legend character and VERY enduring.

In fan focus groups, the 3 characters they wanted back on AMC were Jesse, Angie and Greenlee and so Agnes Nixon always wanted Jesse to be alive in Pine Valley. So, therefore she said why not and so he and Angie were brought back in 2008. As long as Agnes Nixon has her hands in the PP run of the show, Jesse is not going anywhere.

Darnell Williams, brilliantly has portrayed Jesse Hubbard to take home 2 Emmy's, BOTH Lead Actor and Supporting Actor with nominations also. He is the 2nd AA Actor to recieve an Emmy for Lead Actor and the ONLY AA actor to win both lead and supporting and I thank Agnes Nixon for bringing Jesse Hubbard to life in a magnificent way. She proved that she hired the right actor for the right part.

I love All My Children. I love the character of Jesse Hubbard. I love and admire Agnes Nixon and I am a lifetime supporter of Darnell Williams and Debbi Morgan.

Debbi has said she could not do AMC without Darnell and I am with her entirely.

Jesse Hubbard is an Agnes Nixon creation, one of her babies. He is a Major Core Legacy Legend character and VERY enduring.

In fan focus groups, the 3 characters they wanted back on AMC were Jesse, Angie and Greenlee and so Agnes Nixon always wanted Jesse to be alive in Pine Valley. So, therefore she said why not and so he and Angie were brought back in 2008. As long as Agnes Nixon has her hands in the PP run of the show, Jesse is not going anywhere.

Darnell Williams, brilliantly has portrayed Jesse Hubbard to take home 2 Emmy's, BOTH Lead Actor and Supporting Actor with nominations also. He is the 2nd AA Actor to recieve an Emmy for Lead Actor and the ONLY AA actor to win both lead and supporting and I thank Agnes Nixon for bringing Jesse Hubbard to life in a magnificent way. She proved that she hired the right actor for the right part.

I love All My Children. I love the character of Jesse Hubbard. I love and admire Agnes Nixon and I am a lifetime supporter of Darnell Williams and Debbi Morgan.

Debbi has said she could not do AMC without Darnell and I am with her entirely.

You do realize that no one actually said they want Jesse to go anywhere, right? Some of us just want him to learn from some pretty big, pretty recent mistakes and treat Angie like an equal rather than keeping secrets and sneaking around and lying to her.

Edited July 12, 201312 yr by katie_9918