ABC already breached the agreement with the Tomas/Alcazar thing. GH wrote Tomas into an arc where he may end up being the Gh character of Lorenzo Alcazar. Sounds like a great story, HOWEVER, Tomas was not one of the 7 characters loaned to GH. So GH cannot create an arc that puts Tomas at the center of it, no matter how long it lasted on screen.

If you say thats fine, then whats to stop GH taking Reva Shayne from GL and using that role in story without permission. P&G wouldnt sit & take that. They would Sue & win. You cant take someone else's intellectual property and use it without written consent.

Here's my question: if this goes to trial (or to a court-appointed mediator, or whatever), and ABC is found at fault, what happens? Might they be forced to do more than pay the asked-for $25 million in damages?

Depends on what they are asking in damages. The court/mediator may find ABC at faulyt but not award PP all the damages being asked for.

Well yes I knew that but I wondered if the much more miniscule plot mentions I mentioned would be included.

Well yes I knew that but I wondered if the much more miniscule plot mentions I mentioned would be included.

Was wondering the same thing, I would believe as long as the other characters mentioned are tied to the 7 loaned, it would be ok. But I feel that is PP's other gripe the the 7 were supposed to be short term & GH writing John just leaving Liam & staying in PC was OCC

ABC has not been above board in any of their actions when it comes to soaps within the last 10 years... The so-called victim has victimized plenty -- audience and employees combined -- for years. That's all I'll say about this.

Here's another question: do you believe that another regime at GH might have honored better the terms of the arrangement between ABC and PP (provided, those terms have, in fact, been breached), or do you believe they would have behaved the same as Frank and Ron?

Edited April 19, 201312 yr by Khan

Here's my question: if this goes to trial (or to a court-appointed mediator, or whatever), and ABC is found at fault, what happens? Might they be forced to do more than pay the asked-for $25 million in damages?

Line 19-21, page 8:

LINE 19 - WHEREFORE, as to all causes of action against Defendants, Plaintiff prays for judgment against

LINE 20 - Defendant as follows

LINE 21 - 1. Compensatory damages in accordance with proof at trial, but which is reasonably estimated to be no less than $25 million

LINE 22 - 2. For all costs of suit incurred herein;

LINE 23 - 3. For pre-judgment and post-judgement interest as may be provided by law; and

Line 1, page 9:

LINE 1 - 4. For such other and further relief as the Court may deem to be just and proper

I take that as them asking for a minimum of $25 million along with other court costs and just dues, so I'd say yes to your question.

Here's another question: do you believe that another regime at GH might have honored better to terms of the arrangement between ABC and PP (provided, those terms have, in fact, been breached), or do you believe they would have behaved the same as Frank and Ron?

I dunno given I have no clue who made these calls on the ABC/GH side

Here's another question: do you believe that another regime at GH might have honored better to terms of the arrangement between ABC and PP (provided, those terms have, in fact, been breached), or do you believe they would have behaved the same as Frank and Ron?

Personally, I believe OLTL would not have been merged at all into GH if certain people weren't involved.

Here's another question: do you believe that another regime at GH might have honored better to terms of the arrangement between ABC and PP (provided, those terms have, in fact, been breached), or do you believe they would have behaved the same as Frank and Ron?

I don't think another regime would have brought over 3 characters from another show and heavily feature them at the detriment of the show itself. I could see them bringing in Roger as a new character altogether, but that's about it.

But I think what interests me the most (outside of the ad thing...they may have ABCd dead to rights), I'm interested to see the damages PP sustained for 2 shows that have not aired.

Edited April 19, 201312 yr by ChitHappens

Thanks, Errol!

JMO, I feel that once GH started getting good ratings & Praise, they "Forgot" they only could use 7 OLTLers in story & just started mentioning everyone in Llanview. I mean Felix took Hair styling from Roxy. Etc Etc. I feel they believed no one would ever call them on breach of contract cause Gh was a success & OLTL was "Living on" when it really wasnt.

Personally, I believe OLTL would not have been merged at all into GH if certain people weren't involved.

Obviously, no.

I didn't disagree with the merit of that idea. What I disagree with is the way they have allegedly shortchanged the actual OLTL revival, and the way in which they have continued to implicitly assert ownership since - with the worshipful encouragement of some of the soap "press". And if it's true they infringed upon their agreement that's a whole other thing.

The GH writers have confirmed they were just waiting for PP to disappear completely to bring on MA, JVD, ES, KDP, FL etc. more often. There was talk of them casting a contract Jack Manning. They were going all in, and when PP returned they completely failed to accept it.

Edited April 19, 201312 yr by Vee

I'm interested to see the damages PP sustained for 2 shows that have not aired.

Fortunately, because Frank and Ron appeared to care not a whit about AMC (aside from Stuart -- and really, you can't say his having an art exhibit to be OOC), I don't think that particular show has anything to worry about. As for OLTL: at best, there might be apparent and unavoidable errors in continuity. But it isn't as if that has never happened before in television. (Am I right, DALLAS/KNOTS LANDING?)

JMO, I feel that once GH started getting good ratings & Praise, they "Forgot" they only could use 7 OLTLers in story & just started mentioning everyone in Llanview. I mean Felix took Hair styling from Roxy. Etc Etc. I feel they believed no one would ever call them on breach of contract cause Gh was a success & OLTL was "Living on" when it really wasnt.

GH really didn't show much of a consistent improvement in the ratings until the vets began to surface. The 3 had nothing to do with it.

GH really didn't show much of a consistent improvement in the ratings until the vets began to surface. The 3 had nothing to do with it.

Oh I agree. Im saying the ratings improved & Cartini thoiught it was all OLTL then just started incorporating Llanview everywhere by mentioning that radom Gh people knew people in Llanview.