This reminds me of a change.org petition I saw last night about bringing back a combined AMC and OLTL (no comment). Would fans feel differently about these character "invasions" if that was the "mission statement"?

I like the idea of past AMC & OLTL characters coming on to GH, but they chose the wrong ones. They should have chosen someone like Daniel Wolek who is an open book story wise and would seamlessly fit into the fabric of the show. One of RC's twatty little additions he's created could have been his daughter, etc ...

Edited November 21, 201213 yr by Bright Eyes

This reminds me of a change.org petition I saw last night about bringing back a combined AMC and OLTL (no comment). Would fans feel differently about these character "invasions" if that was the "mission statement"?

You mean would people be more accepting of a combined show? I think that would still have led to turf wars just a different kind. Factions from each show would still be arguing about who got pulled onto the lifeboat and who didn't, whose history is being re-written, what is and isn't in character, etc...

You mean would people be more accepting of a combined show? I think that would still have led to turf wars just a different kind. Factions from each show would still be arguing about who got pulled onto the lifeboat and who didn't, whose history is being re-written, what is and isn't in character, etc...

You're probably right. There'd always be a running tally of how many characters on the canvas are from show A vs. show B, who's being properly represented, who' being propped, HW playing favorites, yadda yadda.

I will miss Erica Kane and Victoria Lord forever, but it's probably best to just let those shows go rather than trying to patch together some messy hybrid. I don't trust that anyone in daytime could do it right. This is where I like the idea of a single 30 min. novella slot in daytime should (when?) GH bites the dust. That'll most likely be the end of ABC soaps for good, but imagine treating the whole of daytime like the big fat rep company that it is and having a great EP and HW producing a series of novellas with a fresh new cast of primarily familiar soap faces. So then you have your Susan Lucci and your Erika Slezak in the same series for a couple of months playing new characters, your Julia Barr and your Robin Strasser playing opposite one another, David Canary and Jane Elliott, et cetera. I think that's "healthier" than these crossover mashups. Everyone is "new" and equal.

Edited November 21, 201213 yr by SFK

oh god, not this again

exactly

oh and there are no OLTL characters on GH, they're GH characters......

oh and there are no OLTL characters on GH, they're GH characters......

You're perfectly entitled to see it that way, but I don't.

100% of the backstory for these characters is from another show/town, and so far only one has truly clicked (Todd, though even that is debatable), while the other two serve no significant relevance. To me, these are unnecessary characters that are shoehorned into the show because TPTB want to give some of their friends from their last show new jobs. And that definitely shows on-screen for Starr and John.

I didn't watch OLTL to see these characters, and I'm certainly not watching GH to see them either.

Edited November 21, 201213 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

You're probably right. There'd always be a running tally of how many characters on the canvas are from show A vs. show B, who's being properly represented, who' being propped, HW playing favorites, yadda yadda.

I will miss Erica Kane and Victoria Lord forever, but it's probably best to just let those shows go rather than trying to patch together some messy hybrid. I don't trust that anyone in daytime could do it right. This is where I like the idea of a single 30 min. novella slot in daytime should (when?) GH bites the dust. That'll most likely be the end of ABC soaps for good, but imagine treating the whole of daytime like the big fat rep company that it is and having a great EP and HW producing a series of novellas with a fresh new cast of primarily familiar soap faces. So then you have your Susan Lucci and your Erika Slezak in the same series for a couple of months playing new characters, your Julia Barr and your Robin Strasser playing opposite one another, David Canary and Jane Elliott, et cetera. I think that's "healthier" than these crossover mashups. Everyone is "new" and equal.

And for me that's the REAL tragedy of where we are right now. Not the death of the old soaps but the lack of anything new. We're now to the point where people are just fighting over the scraps, the few remaining fans and, sadly, a few of the actors are just clawing at each other for the chance to climb on to this melting ice floe. You've got fans campaigning to bring on a certain actor or character or worse, the actors themselves prostrating themselves in the "soap press" in the desperate hope that Carlivati or Valentini will, in their eternal benevolence, invite them to the cool kids' party, even if it's just for a couple of episodes.

I'm one of the more cynical posters on this board but I readily admit that I terribly miss so many of these actors. Not just the David Canarys, Susan Luccis, Robin Strassers but the younger ones that I grew to love like Stephanie Gatschet, Finn Wittrock and Cornelius Smith. The blessing for me as an AMC fan is that I haven't had to watch AMC actors I love humiliate themselves humping Cartini's leg begging for a job.

who the hell wastes a soap icon played by an actor as talented as Roger Howarth just to have yet another man revolving in and out of Carly’s orbit … and how can GH not grasp the awesomeness of having Todd Manning/Roger Howarth and Luke Spencer/Anthony Geary on the same soap and not capitalize on it (by my count they’ve had all of 3 scenes together in almost a year’s time).

It's a fvcking travesty that the latter hasn't been done while Ron is trying to push the former (with zero success).

I wish they had utilized Skye's connection to Blair and Todd from the get-go instead of forcing them into the show with plotlines they had no longevity. I like Todd on here but he has been reduced to Carly's bestie and is supporting, Starr is ok but I don't like her that much, and John wore out his welcome months ago. I wish RC would get rid of McBain. The crossover wasn't a bad idea but the execution has been horrible. Bc of it Cole, Hope and Tea's baby were killed for no reason other than plot.

Edited November 22, 201213 yr by Eric83

That's the problem Ihave with it. They want to take advantage of the characters backstories in Llanview, which makes sense (otherwise, as Ron said in his audio interview last week, why not just make new characters), but they only do so when it's convenient. And for fans of OLTL it is a bit hard, for example, seeing Todd make it so Cole could have a life with Starr and be happy and then two weeks later having him die in a terrible car crash.

Has the Prospect Park licensing agreement run out yet? Do FV and RC now have free reign to bring on as many ABC-owned OLTL characters as they please? Also, I wonder what are the "rules", if there are any, about killing off off-screen OLTL characters, if they'd have to run that by higher ups.

It won't until January 13, the one year anniversary of the finale.

Has the Prospect Park licensing agreement run out yet? Do FV and RC now have free reign to bring on as many ABC-owned OLTL characters as they please? Also, I wonder what are the "rules", if there are any, about killing off off-screen OLTL characters, if they'd have to run that by higher ups.

I admit, I wouldn't complain if we had a brief scene with Erica Kane and some others briefly going to PC to see the Nurses's Ball (it could be promo for Erica's movie). Small cameos like that are great with me, and could be hyped in the media, but I wouldn't want her (or anyone except maybe David) from AMC on GH.