Re: Carmen LoPorto (the last child Jack on OLTL), what I remember is Robin saying she'd given him a bit of the old school. The boy was very green when he started, and fumbled a lot on his first day. He'd been trained by his parents to go around and give his co-workers a hug at the end of each day, and Robin told him she wouldn't hug him until he came prepared next time (and I guess he did). That's just the old school disciplinarian treatment. I don't think she was malicious so much as in her own atmosphere. It fit with her rep, but it didn't do her any favors in some people's eyes. I didn't have a problem with it because I doubt anyone suffered any lasting damage. I did roll my eyes a little.

I love Robin but I think she's often her own worst enemy. She got herself taken off OLTL at the end, IMO by trying to play out a drama in the hopes of more story. I believe she thought they'd beg her to stay before she walked out the door and write her back in. And under normal circumstances I think they'd play her game as they often have before. But I don't think she accounted for the fact that they were struggling to both conclude the show on ABC and (they thought) take it online on a very limited budget; if she hadn't forced that situation by making a huge production of 'having to leave' (which she didn't), I think she'd have been there to the very last day. So I am not excusing Robin Strasser for any and all dramas. I just think the thing with the kid is the wrong example.

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by Vee

If MS was racist (and hated VR), do you really believe that she would believe that she would have turned to her to discuss her child/surrogacy? I don't think so. That is way too personal and something you would only discuss with someone you trust and respect. MS made a mistake, she apologized. Honestly, I have to question the production people of keeping the scene on air. If VR was offended (and I can understand her point of view), then it was up to Sony/Y&R production to require a reshoot (or at least edit it so that the spit did not appear on scene). I think both actors are fantastic and loved that Dru and Phyllis were true frenemies - after all, how many other bumpers - had TWO WOMEN IN THE SAME SHOT - on ANY DAYTIME SHOW. Only 1 and it was the two of them. Y&R recognized how much fans loved their antics. I hope VR comes back - it could be a huge boost to Y&R and I'd love to have Dru recount Sharon's antics during the time she's been way! It might be the way to reform the Sharon character.

I'll always remember that scene where Phyllis & Dru were stuck in the elevator together. That was love.

Dru & Giggly were never "frenemies".

Giggly did the same thing to Drucilla that the sociopath has done to every other female character on the show.

Destroy their families & then blame them for her actions.

Sorry, how exactly did Phyllis destroy Dru's family again?

She did that to Christine and I can understand someone thinking she did that to Sharon, but Dru?

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by y&r_fan

Sorry, how exactly did Phyllis destroy Dru's family again?

She did that to Christine and I can understand someone thinking she did that to Sharon, but Dru?

She didn't.

But you have to remember that Phyllis has to be blamed for everything and anything, including things that didn't happen, with some people. Not because they dislike Phyllis, but because they dislike Stafford and her "racism".

Edited August 27, 201213 yr by SoapBoy94

She didn't.

But you have to remember that Phyllis has to be blamed for everything and anything, including things that didn't happen, with some people. Not because they dislike Phyllis, but because they dislike Stafford and her "racism".

That's right, I keep forgetting.

Is it that much of a stretch to think Rowell's race didn't enter Stafford's mind AT ALL and that she simply thought it would be good for the scene?

No, it isn't. But Stafford should have been sensitive enough to realize how spitting upon a Black actor might look to those who might not see it the same way.

No, it isn't. But Stafford should have been sensitive enough to realize how spitting upon a Black actor might look to those who might not see it the same way.

Doesn't that say something about how sad this world is, though? That you can't even perform a very old acting technique without worrying that you're going to be perceived as racist?

Yes, there are racists in this world. But that doesn't mean that *every* person is racist.

(Sorry, SoapBoy, I'm just messing with you, lol.)

(Sorry, SoapBoy, I'm just messing with you, lol.)

This is why I love you. We can debate, and completely disagree - even get a bit heated, but at the end of the day we can joke about it and still get along.

No, it isn't. But Stafford should have been sensitive enough to realize how spitting upon a Black actor might look to those who might not see it the same way.

Perhaps it was an error in judgement on her part. But should she still be paying for it 7 years later? I think not.

Perhaps it was an error in judgement on her part. But should she still be paying for it 7 years later? I think not.

Exactly. It just makes VR look bad that she's so hung up on spit take that happened what, 5-7 years ago?

Panicking stans are hilarious.

No, it isn't.

Right.

Because she pulled unplanned "spit takes" on how many white actors?