Did you wipe Alexa's ass yet?

Sad.

I'll tell you this much, even if I wasn't a Babe fan I still would never condone the things JR does and I would still dislike him on principal because he is a misogynistic, homophobic, rich-boy tyrant who gets joy out of hurting people and there is no way to excuse the things that he does.

Yes because saying two lesbians would never raise his child leaves him so much room to work with. The Jacob Young troops are always a blast to engage with.

That's not what they were talking about and it says that nowhere in the context of the dialogue. He is saying Babe wouldn't get custody because she had sex with Bianca and because she was a lesbian. Did you even watch the show then?

Jacob Young you are kidding right? We are talking about 2 fictional characters, JR Chandler and Bianca Montgomery aren't we? Where did the line get crossed into Jacob Young the person?

The fact you continue to fail to recognize is JR lashing out with this [!@#$%^&*] is a pattern of behavior when he;s down. NO one is even attempting to justify it but you're using this to label him as a homophobe so I suppose he's also a racist, is against disabled people, hates convicted felons, etc.. JR uses his own and everyone elses vulerabilties to lash out he always has. Can he be dispicable at times yes, but I would hardly consider him a member of the nazi party or arian brotherhood.

Jacob Young you are kidding right? We are talking about 2 fictional characters, JR Chandler and Bianca Montgomery aren't we? Where did the line get crossed into Jacob Young the person?

I call them Jacob Young troops because I don't think they understand or even know the character of JR outside of him in the role. It's nothing against the actor. I think the actors great and from my understanding he is a very nice guy. However I think most of his fans just seem to think he is hot and have an attachment to JR just because Jacob is in the role so they defend him because they have a thing for Jacob. If anyone else was in the role they wouldn't defend him half as much and would likely see him for the destructive, abusive, chauvinistic, homophobic, !@#$%^&*] he truly is.

The fact you continue to fail to recognize is JR lashing out with this [!@#$%^&*] is a pattern of behavior when he;s down. NO one is even attempting to justify it but you're using this to label him as a homophobe so I suppose he's also a racist, is against disabled people, hates convicted felons, etc.. JR uses his own and everyone elses vulerabilties to lash out he always has. Can he be dispicable at times yes, but I would hardly consider him a member of the nazi party or arian brotherhood.

As I said before above:

You're still not getting it. It's not the fact that he calls people nasty names. It's the fact that JR uses lesbianism as something to be ashamed of and attacks the very thought/concept of a person being in love with another person who is the same sex. I don't even understand how someone couldn't get this. It would be different if he was insulting Bianca about a salient character trait specific to her, if he insulted her wardrobe, her hair, her looks, etc. that would be an insult about Bianca, Marissa, Zarf/Zoe, Babe, etc. What JR does however is he insults the gay person for liking the same sex and not being heterosexual. He isn't insulting the person because of the way they are or the way they act something specific to them. He insults them BECAUSE THEY ARE GAY. That is homophobic.

The fact that JR attacks homosexuality and uses it against several characters shows that he has a hatred and disgust of gay people. Point blank. The things he says, the way he says them, the way he uses being gay as if it is something to be ashamed of shows this. He once told Babe that he didn't like the fact that people were gay but he dealt with it because it didn't concern him. He has been written to be this way since 2004 and I can't overlook it especially when the show beats me over the head with it. JR is homophobic.

Edited August 19, 201114 yr by Skin

No this is.

Bianca: You would use the fact that I'm a lesbian to peg Babe as an unfit mother.

JR:The judge will take one look at this photo (photo of Babe and Bianca in bed together) and you will be a non-person and a non-parent.

Bianca: Oh so I see, you just scored cause there is now way a lesbian could be a good mother right.

JR: We'll lets just say Bianca we all got lucky tonight.

JR: No judge will hand over Bess to Babe now.

http://www.youtube.c...?v=YALa8f-cWYc

Please learn how to embed because I'm not gonna click on any link you provide with the fear of it leading to some Alexa Havens shrine barkfest site.

And no, those comments still don't prove that JR is some raging homophobe that proclaimed Babe to be an unfit mother.

That's not what they were talking about and it says that nowhere in the context of the dialogue.

It's in the first clip, the same scene, the same episode that clear drama posted. JR talks about what a big skank your Babe is and how all she's done is lie and sleep her way to a gold card. It's most definitely in the context of the dialogue...since it came right after!!

*reaching*

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Reaching hard

JR:The judge will take one look at this photo (photo of Babe and Bianca in bed together) and you will be a non-person and a non-parent.

Meaning...

Judge: Ms. Carey aren't you married?

Babe: Yes your honor, but I wasn't cheating...(judge looks at the photo)

Binx did her wise assumptions, what she's known for in that scene, b/c JR never said anything homophobic.

Edited August 19, 201114 yr by Clear Drama

Please learn how to embed because I'm not gonna click on any link you provide with the fear of it leading to some Alexa Havens shrine barkfest site.

And no, those comments still don't prove that JR is some raging homophobe that proclaimed Babe to be an unfit mother.

You could argue that JR is just going to take the prejudice of another person and use it for his advantage, but honestly how is that any better? He is still endorsing homophobia and using hatred for gays and lesbians for his own gain thus promoting homophobia indirectly anyway. Either way it's clear that he thinks lesbianism is grounds for losing your child. I don't even begin to understand how that is better or more defense-able

I don't know how to embed. Sorry.

Binx did her wise assumptions, what she's known for in that scene, b/c JR never said anything homophobic.

JR doesn't deny it. He could have easily said that her being a lesbian doesn't matter. The fact that the scene implies that JR is using lesbianism against Babe is enough to show the intent of the scene. He even infers the judges prejudice in the scene that I posted above and says that he will contribute to his homophobia by giving him donations to his next campaign.

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I know people are caught up in the JR/JY war but can anyone tell me what happened to the child Bianca had that Zach fathered that she and Reese were allegedly parents of? Is she still with her?

Oh lord I can't argue or debate w/ someone that cries homophobia at every little thing. This is just ridiculous.

I know people are caught up in the JR/JY war but can anyone tell me what happened to the child Bianca had that Zach fathered that she and Reese were allegedly parents of? Is she still with her?

Yes, Gabrielle is still being raised by Bianca (I almost wrote Babe there )

Yes, Gabrielle is still being raised by Bianca (I almost wrote Babe there )

SO is Bianca her only parent at this point? I wasn't watching during that horrid period and storyline but Bianca is the full custodial parent? Is Reese legally tied to Gabrielle at all?

I think Marissa won her custody? I was hardly paying attention cause I didn't care.

I call them Jacob Young troops because I don't think they understand or even know the character of JR outside of him in the role. It's nothing against the actor. I think the actors great and from my understanding he is a very nice guy. However I think most of his fans just seem to think he is hot and have an attachment to JR just because Jacob is in the role so they defend him because they have a thing for Jacob. If anyone else was in the role they wouldn't defend him half as much and would likely see him for the destructive, abusive, chauvinistic, homophobic, !@#$%^&*] he truly is.

But that clouds your judgement too doesn't it when it comes to Babe. I admit it colors my judgement with certain characters. IF I like a character and particularly an actor I can over look and forgive a lot more. I find Ryan, Kendall, Greenlee, and Zach unbearable most of the time but then I don't care for the actors that much and none of the characters do much for me. But then I love Adam Chandler and don't know a damn about David Canary.

SO is Bianca her only parent at this point? I wasn't watching during that horrid period and storyline but Bianca is the full custodial parent? Is Reese legally tied to Gabrielle at all?

Reese abandoned her. She hasnt seen the kids in over a year yet she fought Bianca for them earlier this year. She eventually gave up and so far hasnt been a factor. Not even any offscreen visits

I think Marissa won her custody? I was hardly paying attention cause I didn't care.

I was only really enaged in the scenes with Colby and JR and Liza and I think she won because JR screwed up trying to bribe the judge. Sadly Bianca and Marissa are just boring and I don't pay much attention to them but I think she said she got custody but didn't mention why or at least not what I saw

Reese abandoned her. She hasnt seen the kids in over a year yet she fought Bianca for them earlier this year. She eventually gave up and so far hasnt been a factor. Not even any offscreen visits

Ok I wasn't watching much then but was there a custody storyline going on earlier in the year? Was that before MArissa and Bianca became friends?

Ok I wasn't watching much then but was there a custody storyline going on earlier in the year? Was that before MArissa and Bianca became friends?

yes there was a custody story. Marissa and Bianca were already friends but got closer during it