38 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Lol!  They could and very few would care.  But I would hope they would retconning it to be Jax's in the end.   Not Sonny's.  

I have never heard of a soap erasing a child from existence and pretending it just didn't happen at all when it was a central plot point for a core character. Even AMC's Bobby Martin wasn't exactly key to the plot. So yeah, no, AFAIC she's stuck with uh... what was his name? Alec! That's it, I literally just had to check. But really, he can grow into a fine character

I think on paper the Balkan story - some of it, anyway - could've worked: A big bad crime family with a few prestige TV/movie actors (Benzali, the legendary Adrienne Barbeau). It was the execution and details with the son, etc. I found silly.

The Balkan had potential, in that both of them were played be excellent actors that didn’t get eaten alive by the soap pace.  The story made no sense.   But they hired the right people to play it.

13 minutes ago, Vee said:

I have never heard of a soap erasing a child from existence and pretending it just didn't happen at all when it was a central plot point for a core character. Even AMC's Bobby Martin wasn't exactly key to the plot. So yeah, no, AFAIC she's stuck with uh... what was his name? Alec! That's it, I literally just had to check. But really, he can grow into a fine character

I think on paper the Balkan story - some of it, anyway - could've worked: A big bad crime family with a few prestige TV/movie actors (Benzali, the legendary Adrienne Barbeau). It was the execution and details with the son, etc. I found silly.

Oh I don't think GH would ever actually retcon the kid out of existence but I don't think even Brenda fans care that much about him.  Anyhow, he is a character that is ripe to be brought back and it would be fun for Joss to fall for him just for Carly reactions.

I wonder who the Balkan was originally supposed to be.  Did Guza just not have an endgame plan?  I can't imagine Suzanne was always part of that.  I was hoping it would be connected to the Rivera family or even a non-dead Luis or Alcazar connection, but, no, Brenda just managed to piss off another International crime figure. 

3 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Oh I don't think GH would ever actually retcon the kid out of existence but I don't think even Brenda fans care that much about him.  Anyhow, he is a character that is ripe to be brought back and it would be fun for Joss to fall for him just for Carly reactions.

I do not believe any son of Brenda Barrett's would turn out to be rugged hetero and nothing else, let alone hot for the deeply boring Eden McCoy, but that's another story!

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I wonder who the Balkan was originally supposed to be.  Did Guza just not have an endgame plan?  I can't imagine Suzanne was always part of that.  I was hoping it would be connected to the Rivera family or even a non-dead Luis or Alcazar connection, but, no, Brenda just managed to piss off another International crime figure.

I feel like they were waiting for a strong primetime actor and they got one. I have my doubts there was a rewrite on his ID except for some of the baby/Dante stuff, I think it was just a poorly constructed story with parts of it slapped together when Vanessa made them can the Dante angle.

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59 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Both stories sucked, so I understand.

Sonny and Jax shared three women, which is pretty nasty. I'm still actually surprised that they never did a "whose the daddy" plot with Sonny/Brenda/Jax...and that Brenda never had a baby at all.

9 minutes ago, Vee said:

I do not believe any character of Brenda Barrett's would turn out to be rugged hetero and nothing else, let alone hot for the deeply boring Eden McCoy, but that's another story!

 

 

I feel like they were waiting for a strong primetime actor and they got one. I have my doubts there was a rewrite on his ID except for some of the baby/Dante stuff, I think it was just a poorly constructed story with parts of it slapped together when Vanessa made them can the Dante angle.

Fair.  I wasn't really thinking of the heat Joss/Alec would generate just the hilarious histrionics LW's Carly would come up with.

I am just not sure the Dante angle would have made it more coherent?  S&B might have broken up, but would it have effected the Balkan's overall plans?  They just had no use for the kid anymore and Brante might have had to go find it together.

3 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

Sonny and Jax shared three women, which is pretty nasty. I'm still actually surprised that they never did a "whose the daddy" plot with Sonny/Brenda/Jax...and that Brenda never had a baby at all.

They both slept with Kate too.

I actually think they might have been headed toward a S/B/J WTD in 1997 after Brenda slept with Sonny in the caves.  They made a big deal about asking Brenda if she was possibly pregnant at the hospital after that and she flashed back to her and Sonny and stammered around saying she didn't know.  But then MB/VM didn't renew their contracts and it was most likely dropped if it was ever thought of.   It might have been interesting for Brenda to be pregnant with Sonny's baby after he left her at the altar and the repercussions of that, but the show wasn't as baby crazy back then.  

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

They both slept with Kate too.

I guess I blocked that out, too. Don't these women know that there are other men in Port Chuckles? Not many, but there are other options. 😂

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am just not sure the Dante angle would have made it more coherent?  S&B might have broken up, but would it have effected the Balkan's overall plans?  They just had no use for the kid anymore and Brante might have had to go find it together.

I don't think the Dante angle was a great idea, but I do think they were forced to re-jigger the entire story around a son from a family we'd never met and tie it all back to an all-new backstory, and that made things even worse for something that was already poorly executed.

2 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

I guess I blocked that out, too. Don't these women know that there are other men in Port Chuckles? Not many, but there are other options. 😂

That's another game I wish there was a "scientific" way to count and play: what is the record for two female characters having gone to bed with the same guys?
I know AMC Brooke and Erica became something of a running joke in that regard but I would bet on B&B Brooke and Taylor.

1 minute ago, FrenchBug82 said:

That's another game I wish there was a "scientific" way to count and play: what is the record for two female characters having gone to bed with the same guys?
I know AMC Brooke and Erica became something of a running joke in that regard but I would bet on B&B Brooke and Taylor.

That's a good question. I actually thought Alexis qualified here but I believe she and Jax were just married in name only.

5 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

I guess I blocked that out, too. Don't these women know that there are other men in Port Chuckles? Not many, but there are other options. 😂

It was just a one night stand with very little impact after Sonny/Carly cheated.  

 

8 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

That's another game I wish there was a "scientific" way to count and play: what is the record for two female characters having gone to bed with the same guys?
I know AMC Brooke and Erica became something of a running joke in that regard but I would bet on B&B Brooke and Taylor.

Sam and Liz  (Lucky, Ric, Jason)

Courtney and Carly (AJ, Jason, Jax)

Olivia and Alexis (Sonny, Julian, Ned)

Those are the ones I could think of that have 3 off the top of my head.  I am sure there are more.

9 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't think the Dante angle was a great idea, but I do think they were forced to re-jigger the entire story around a son from a family we'd never met and tie it all back to an all-new backstory, and that made things even worse for something that was already poorly executed.

Yeah, I really don't get them bringing in a whole new big bad instead of tying it to an old one.  Or make it the Zaccarra's behind it to destroy Sonny or something.

I just found this pic of Genie Francis and Jane Elliot at GH's 20th anniversary party in 1983. Gotta love 1980s formal. 😉😝😂

8 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:

I just found this pic of Genie Francis and Jane Elliot at GH's 20th anniversary party in 1983. Gotta love 1980s formal. 😉😝😂

OMG! It looks like they are guest starring on an episode of Buck Rogers.

Just now, Efulton said:

OMG! It looks like they are guest starring on an episode of Buck Rogers.

😂😂😂😂😂

I had never seen this photo before now. It makes one wonder what might have been, if Doug Marland had had his way and kept Laura married to Prince Charming and away from The Frog.

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