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2 minutes ago, sheilaforever said:

I'm just rewatching at around #1188 (December 1991). Cast credits are included quite regularly in those episodes...

Great ! I went through some 1992 and couldn’t find them easily. Will check

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7 hours ago, FrenchFan said:

I noticed cast credits are very rare in the recent episodes posted. Does anyone know which episode from 1991-1992 I could check and find some?

I was just watching the 1992 episodes that were uploaded. Episode 1232 has cast credits.

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Does anyone know where I can find an accurate list of original US air dates that correspond with episode numbers? I’ve been using a spreadsheet for the current episodes (each tab at the bottom is for a different year), and I’m modifying it to keep track of what’s already been added to the vault. I’m making it for personal use, but we could add it to the vault if you all like it. I want to expand it to include the earlier episodes, but I can’t find a good resource online. IMDb is the closest I can get, but a lot of the dates are off.

 

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@JellyBeanthat spreadsheet is so SLICK, I can't believe you color coordinated and put the logo too, that looks so professional! I would love if you uploaded it to the vault.

I have asked about this before and the problem with imdb is that there were a lot of pre-emptions during the summer of 1987 for the Iran-Contra Hearings, so that sort of messes up the dates and episode numbers from the start. I know a lot of people have tried but I don't think there is a fully confirmed list out there. Even for Y&R, we only have estimates for the dates (check out here, as of episode #3597: http://www.feuxdelamour.com/guide.pdf ) and of course we don't know if they were always preempted on the same days. If you check out the Cancelled Soaps section here, there's a thread where someone has been doing this for ATWThttps://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/56094-as-the-world-turns-full-episode-list/ 

 

Another resource is the Bell Script Archive which lists the dates and episode numbers on the scripts (I think this is how the Y&R guide was compiled) as of episode #83: http://pdf.oac.cdlib.org/pdf/ucla/pasc/wjbell.pdf Those may be off due to unplanned news preemptions, but at least would account for planned sports and holiday preemptions.

 

There are some episodes on archive.org if you search "bold beautiful 1987" "bold beautiful 1988" etc that can be used to compare against the episode #s in the vault to get a few milestones that are known to be correct. Episodes with commercials can be cross-referenced against TV listings for the shows advertised or compared to old recaps on Usenet (after 1990). The poster who does it for ATWT puts a little note next to the dates that are confirmed and the source, which is helpful.

 

If you upload to the vault, then maybe everyone could colloborate with what they know, or maybe a separate thread would be better.

 

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5 hours ago, skebujebu said:

Are the U.S. air dates absolutely necessary? As long as there`s episode numbers that will do….

I think a lot of people track episodes by air date in their collections instead of episode #. I’ve always liked having both, but I agree episode # is most important.

I’m glad you guys like it! I’ll work on adding the earlier years and add it to the vault when I get home from work this afternoon. I’ll just leave out anything I don’t know for sure and anyone who can figure out the missing dates is welcome to fill in the blanks.

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Finally finished with the episode guide for the vault! It took a lot longer than I thought it would and a TON of research, but I'm 95% sure I found all the correct air dates/episode #s. The only dates I'm not positive about are the 1987 Iran-Contra & 1995 OJ Simpson preemptions, and there were a few other dates between January - April, 1991 I had to do some educated guess work for. Thanks to @BoldRestless for links to the Bell script archive, ATWT & Y&R episode lists to compare against. Those were so much help!

For the "season info" column, I know everything from Season 18 on is correct from dates on the official B&B Youtube channel and Paramount+. For early seasons, another fan told me the season start date used to be the show's anniversary week in March vs the start date they use now at the end of September. As far as I could gather from the classic episodes on Paramount+, the earliest season we know of that started in September was season 11, and the last season with any confirmed dates available that started in March was season 9. So I wasn't sure which season (9 or 10) was supposed to be extended to September, but I went with season 10 for the sake of not leaving anything blank. Take this column with a grain of salt for now for anything before season 18.

The spreadsheet is divided by tabs at the bottom for each year. Tabs highlighted pink indicate a complete year in the vault with no missing episodes. Boxes can be clicked next to each episode to add check marks, and boxes for all episodes not checked will automatically be red so we can easily see at a glance what's still missing from the vault. There's also a drop down box for each episode to choose the quality of the video so if anyone has the same episode with better quality they'll know they can still share it. I got it up to date for all the English episodes in the vault as of today.

The finished product is attached to this post for anyone who wants a copy (or if someone wants to post it to the vault for everyone to share). It's an Excel file, so you need Microsoft Office to open on your computer, but it should be fine for the vault. I hope you guys find it useful!

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7 hours ago, JellyBean said:

Finally finished with the episode guide for the vault! It took a lot longer than I thought it would and a TON of research, but I'm 95% sure I found all the correct air dates/episode #s. The only dates I'm not positive about are the 1987 Iran-Contra & 1995 OJ Simpson preemptions, and there were a few other dates between January - April, 1991 I had to do some educated guess work for. Thanks to @BoldRestless for links to the Bell script archive, ATWT & Y&R episode lists to compare against. Those were so much help!

For the "season info" column, I know everything from Season 18 on is correct from dates on the official B&B Youtube channel and Paramount+. For early seasons, another fan told me the season start date used to be the show's anniversary week in March vs the start date they use now at the end of September. As far as I could gather from the classic episodes on Paramount+, the earliest season we know of that started in September was season 11, and the last season with any confirmed dates available that started in March was season 9. So I wasn't sure which season (9 or 10) was supposed to be extended to September, but I went with season 10 for the sake of not leaving anything blank. Take this column with a grain of salt for now for anything before season 18.

The spreadsheet is divided by tabs at the bottom for each year. Tabs highlighted pink indicate a complete year in the vault with no missing episodes. Boxes can be clicked next to each episode to add check marks, and boxes for all episodes not checked will automatically be red so we can easily see at a glance what's still missing from the vault. There's also a drop down box for each episode to choose the quality of the video so if anyone has the same episode with better quality they'll know they can still share it. I got it up to date for all the English episodes in the vault as of today.

The finished product is attached to this post for anyone who wants a copy (or if someone wants to post it to the vault for everyone to share). It's an Excel file, so you need Microsoft Office to open on your computer, but it should be fine for the vault. I hope you guys find it useful!

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B&B EPISODE GUIDE.xlsx

Hi just joined today.

JellyBean there seems to be something wrong with the link as the follow saying comes up when I click on it:

This attachment is not available. It may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it to this location.

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3 hours ago, Robert2021 said:

Hi just joined today.

JellyBean there seems to be something wrong with the link as the follow saying comes up when I click on it:

This attachment is not available. It may have been removed or the person who shared it may not have permission to share it to this location.

Ugh, sorry about that. I’ll try to share it a different way when I get home this afternoon. I would post it directly to the vault, but for some reason I can only download files and not upload to the drive. If nothing else works, I’m happy to email you a copy.

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3 hours ago, JellyBean said:

 

Thanks! Looks awesome.

 

I looked into the OJ dates a bit since you mentioned that... what I have tracks pretty well with yours, except there was a show on July 11, 1994

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/O-4q-J_fUSA/m/zZEeBzT-62MJ

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/bf0R8Orwig0/m/N3yidZqO8y0J

 

 

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