19 minutes ago, janea4old said:

(Yes for Y&R November 3, 2023 I have 12739)

GH is actually Episode #15335 for Nov. 3, 2023.
GH is off by five episode numbers because ...
There were four "A" episodes in April/May 2020
and one "A" episode in June 2023.
I will give details on the GH thread because it's complicated.

Days has had a few "A" insert episodes through the years as well. It does get complicated. I know it took awhile to get everything together on the Days episode guide when I compiled that many years ago!

Another cool trick to find old episode numbers is to go to 
archive.org, and then enter 
https://www.cbs.com/shows/the_bold_and_the_beautiful/
into the archive.org search,

and then select the month around the time you are researching, and if you are lucky you can do the source-code trick to get the episode number from the URL of the episode cover photo.

I've done this for  Y&R same way
And also for https://abc.com/shows/general-hospital

Edited November 7, 20232 yr by janea4old

27 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Another cool trick to find old episode numbers is to go to 
archive.org, and then enter 
https://www.cbs.com/shows/the_bold_and_the_beautiful/
into the archive.org search,

and then select the month around the time you are researching, and if you are lucky you can do the source-code trick to get the episode number from the URL of the episode cover photo.

I've done this for  Y&R same way
And also for https://abc.com/shows/general-hospital

Great info! Thanks so much @janea4old! I keep an up to date Y&R list, hence my being correct on that one, and now I went back to tinker with my B&B spreadsheet, not updated since 2021  and yes, you're absolutely correct. GH I don't track at all so when Jason asked about the current network shows, I went to imdb. 

 

One day I might pick your brain about the CBS "season" start dates.

50 minutes ago, divinemotion said:

Sweet people, I have made a new folder in the 2001 section of the vault and started uploading my GERMAN VIDEO with ENGLISH AUDIO full episodes edits. Give me a thumbs up if you like the episodes and tell me if I can improve more! I will upload when I have time since lately I dont even have 5 free minutes, raising a dog puppy... I plan to upload AUGUST TO DECEMBER 2001 and FULL 2002 in this edited form. I am uploading with episode number only files. Since its easier for me to do it in that way. 

Have a great day. AND MILLIONS THANKS to the ORIGINAL UPLOADERS of the German and English Sources. You guys are the true heroes.

P.S

For some reason the upload speed is absurd slow... like 500 kb to 1 megabite a second. 

You can expect 3606 to 3615 today, since they are already uploading.

 

Not only am I happy about the videos, but I am impressed that you put them in a red folder, dramatic and reminiscent of Sally Spectra herself 👍

 

These are quite good and watchable and I'd rather watch it like this with such good picture, so a big thanks to you.  

 

Just so people know, many smart TVs have an option to shift the sound so if the sync bothers you, you can adjust it on your TV. If watching on the computer using VLC player, you may also shift the audio until it is perfect https://wiki.videolan.org/VLC_HowTo/Adjust_audio_delay/

4 hours ago, janea4old said:

Monday, November 6, 2023  is Episode #9142
Monday, July 20, 2020  was episode #8318A
Producer Casey Kasprzyk tweeted that 8318A was a special review episode to kick off the return to airing after the COVID break.  He tweeted the episode numbers.

Thanks, so this is now the correct list for BB:

BB (as of 11/3/23):
Possible Airdates: 9555 airdates
Aired: 9141 regular episodes
Full Preemptions: 414 preemptions (includes classic episodes & specially-numbered episodes)

1 hour ago, BoldRestless said:

One day I might pick your brain about the CBS "season" start dates.

 

The Nielsen books have those (sometimes the networks start at a different date, like I mentioned happened in September 1990). So, I can eventually help out with those for 1978-1999, but too busy now with the other stuff!

2 hours ago, janea4old said:

8246A    Thursday, December 24, 2020  8246A
(8246A per CBS episode image)

@JAS0N47 did you see this one, too?  That's two "A" episodes, 
The one that Casey K mentioned and this one.

3 hours ago, janea4old said:

GH is actually Episode #15335 for Nov. 3, 2023.
GH is off by five episode numbers because ...
There were four "A" episodes in April/May 2020
and one "A" episode in June 2023.
I will give details on the GH thread because it's complicated.

correcting myself:  There were 6 "A" episodes of GH (not five).  I finally updated on the GH thread.

Edited November 7, 20232 yr by janea4old

On 11/6/2023 at 5:23 AM, JAS0N47 said:

I haven't done September 1990-August 1991 yet, so I am missing 12 preemptions for BB (based on Script 1575). 

YRFan posted these 13 for that time frame, so one of these dates below had to have aired an episode (possibly the "3 preemptions in 2/91 are actually only 2). There can only be 12 preemptions of BB max from 9/90-8/91. The search begins now as I type up September 1990 (and hopefully October 1990) today!

9/3/90 US Open
9/7/90 U.S Open
11/22/90 Thanksgiving
11/23/90 
12/25/90 Christmas 
1/1/91 New Years
1/9/91 Gulf War Coverage
1/17/91 Gulf War coverage
2/91 At least 3 preemptions within the months, two I heard were possibly 2/15 and 2/27/91?
3/14/91 March Madness
3/15/91 March Madness

I was able to verify Feb 27th, but not the other two. And we do know there were two more because the episode numbers line up.

Here's a quick and dirty document I wrote on the subject.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Jl1eBEJvfO2xdB9CMNBA_veOcVNWS9vrKPd8nb3KaSo/edit

55 minutes ago, janea4old said:

@JAS0N47 did you see this one, too?  That's two "A" episodes, 
The one that Casey K mentioned and this one.

I just wanted to get those math problems done so now we know exactly what's up with all of the 4 current soaps!

So any "A" episodes would fall into the "Full Preemptions: 414 preemptions (includes classic episodes & specially-numbered episodes)" category. Fans of BB, YR, GH, I've provided the full preemptions for 1979-1999 and now I've done the math problems to confirm exactly how many preemptions (or in special cases, insert/A or classic episodes) in total each of your soaps has had. 

So that's as far as I can help out in regards to the other soaps. Now, it's up to historians to use these numbers and confirm which of the "full preemptions" was actually an insert ("A") episode or a classic repeat episode.
 

I'm sure some of you have already done that research, but I hope my Nielsen preemptions confirmation has helped your episode guides some!!

Edited November 7, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

On 11/6/2023 at 5:05 AM, JAS0N47 said:

You're welcome!  Glad that I could help!!

The last time I spoke about it, in the 1990's ratings thread, if you missed it, I found this data point for BB:

"I did have the 1640 correct (328 weeks x 5) = 1640 possible episodes to air between 3/23/87 to 7/2/93. And, from the script, we know 1575 aired on 7/1/93, meaning 1576 aired on 7/2/93.  So 1640 - 1576 = 64.  That confirms BB had a total of 64 preemptions as of 7/2/93. The 40 I have listed from the Nielsen books, plus the 24 listed earlier today (which will eventually be confirmed when I type up the rest of 1989-1991). So it looks like BB fans now have a complete (and correct) list of all BB preemptions for 1987-1995 (I'll be adding in 1996 soon).  It also means any "partial" preemptions from March 1987-June 1993 were just that (none triggered a full preemption and re-air the next day).

So, using those 64 preemption dates, BB fans can now list the correct airdates and episode #s from at least # 1 through # 1575.

With what I have now typed out, I have the confirmed BB preemptions through July 1993 now up to 52 preemptions, which means there are (at most) 12 preemptions left to find from September 1990-August 1991.  And those upcoming 12 preemptions were already posted by a BB fan, so it's just pending the check of the Nielsen books for final confirmation of those. What that # 1575 script helps confirm is that there were no classic/repeat episodes and no re-airings of partial episodes from March 1987-July 1993. What you have to do on your own, which I can't help with from Nielsen, is figure out when any "classic" BB episodes aired, and when any partial episodes might have triggered a national preemption and were re-aired the following day (from July 1993-Present). Those are the only two types of things I can't help you out with from my data. Now, if you have any BB scripts from the 1997-1999 time frame, that would help confirm the TOTAL number of possible full preemptions, so do you happen to have any BB scripts from 1997, 1998 or 1999? 

7/7/87 The Price Is Right 2                       
7/8/87 The Price Is Right 2                       
7/9/87 The Price Is Right 2                       
7/10/87 The Price Is Right 2                       
7/14/87 Young and the Restless
7/15/87 Price Is Right 2                 
7/17/87 Price Is Right 2
7/23/87 Price Is Right 2                       
7/29/87 Hearings                       
8/3/87 (Local Fill)                       
9/7/87 US Open Tennis                       
9/11/87 US Open Tennis                       
11/26/87 J.T.                   
11/27/87 A Thanksgiving Treasure                       
12/8/87 Summit Signing Ceremony                       
12/25/87 NBA on CBS                       
12/31/87 As the World Turns
1/1/88 Cotton Bowl                       
2/15/88 NBA on CBS                       
9/5/88 US Open Tennis                       
9/9/88 US Open Tennis                       
11/24/88 NFL Football
11/25/88 Care Bears Movie II                       
12/26/88 Movie Special: Quarterback Princess     
1/2/89 Cotton Bowl
1/20/89 Price Is Right 2
2/20/89 NBA on CBS

9/4/89 US Open Tennis

9/8/89 US Open Tennis  
11/23/89 Dink the Little Dinosaur

11/24/89 Garfield & Friends
12/25/89 Homecoming 

1/1/90 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-516PM)
2/19/90 NBA on CBS (130-408PM)
9/2/91 US Open Tennis (1230-7PM)
9/6/91 (Local Fill for US Open Tennis)
10/11/91 (Local Fill for Thomas Senate Hearings)
11/28/91 NFL Football (1234-340PM)
12/25/91 Movie: Homecoming (1-3PM)
1/1/92 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-530PM)
2/17/92 XVI Winter Olympics (1-6PM)
3/19/92 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-238PM)
3/20/92 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-240PM)
9/7/92 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/11/92 US Open Tennis (1230-5PM)
11/26/92 Bugs Bunny Thanksgiving Diet (130-2PM)
12/25/92 House Without a Christmas Tree (1230-2PM)
1/1/93 Blockbuster Bowl (130-506PM)
1/20/93 Family Feud Special (130-2PM)
3/18/93 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-237PM)
3/19/93 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-225PM)
4/19/93 Unrated special report (130-210PM)

Jason, thank you SO much for your efforts. It is sincerely appreciated!

It looks like Feb 21st 1992 may be a preemption also. Can you verify?

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/9u6_TNhySKU/m/6YLQC3q47msJ

64 Confirmed Full Preemptions of BB: March 1987-July 1993: (64 TOTAL)

 

7/7/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)              
7/8/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)                 
7/9/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)     
7/10/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)      
7/14/87 Young and the Restless (1-2PM)
7/15/87 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)       
7/17/87 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)
7/23/87 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)                  
7/29/87 Iran Contra Hearings 26 (1230-630PM)
8/3/87 (Local Fill for local news after Iran Contra Hearings 27, 9AM-122PM & $25,000 Pyramid 122-130PM)                       
9/7/87 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)                  
9/11/87 US Open Tennis (11AM-302PM)                 
11/26/87 J.T. (130-230PM)
11/27/87 A Thanksgiving Treasure (1230-2PM)     
12/8/87 Unrated Summit Signing Ceremony (unknown timings)                       
12/25/87 NBA on CBS (12-230PM)
12/31/87 As the World Turns (130-230PM)
1/1/88 Cotton Bowl (130-504PM)                 
2/15/88 NBA on CBS (130-4PM)               
9/5/88 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)                      
9/9/88 US Open Tennis 2 (123-4PM)                    
11/24/88 NFL Football (1230-311PM)
11/25/88 Care Bears Movie II (1230-2PM)                
12/26/88 Movie Special: Quarterback Princess (1230-2PM)
1/2/89 Cotton Bowl (130-445PM)
1/20/89 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)
2/20/89 NBA on CBS (130-4PM)

9/4/89 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)

9/8/89 US Open Tennis 2 (112-547PM) 
11/23/89 Dink the Little Dinosaur (130-2PM)

11/24/89 Garfield & Friends (130-2PM)
12/25/89 Homecoming (1230-230PM)

1/1/90 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-516PM)
2/19/90 NBA on CBS (130-408PM)

9/3/90 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/7/90 US Open Tennis (1236-530PM)

11/22/90 H.R. Pufnstuf (130-2PM)
11/23/90 A Boy Named Charlie Brown (1230-230PM)
12/25/90 Homecoming: Christmas Story (1230-230PM)
1/1/91 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-519PM)

1/9/91 Unrated CBS Special Report- Geneva (unknown timings)

1/17/91 War in the Gulf 3 (10AM-4PM)

1/30/91 Unrated War in the Gulf 36 (unknown timings)

2/15/91 Unrated War in the Gulf 39 (unknown timings)  

2/27/91 Unrated War in the Gulf 59 (unknown timings)

3/14/91 NCAA Basketball 1 (12-235PM)

3/15/91 NCAA Basketball 1 (12-235PM)

9/2/91 US Open Tennis (1230-7PM)
9/6/91 (Local Fill for US Open Tennis)
10/11/91 (Local Fill for Thomas Senate Hearings)
11/28/91 NFL Football (1234-340PM)
12/25/91 Movie: Homecoming (1-3PM)
1/1/92 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-530PM)
2/17/92 XVI Winter Olympics (1-6PM)
3/19/92 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-238PM)
3/20/92 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-240PM)
9/7/92 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/11/92 US Open Tennis (1230-5PM)
11/26/92 Bugs Bunny Thanksgiving Diet (130-2PM)
12/25/92 House Without a Christmas Tree (1230-2PM)
1/1/93 Blockbuster Bowl (130-506PM)
1/20/93 Family Feud Special (130-2PM)
3/18/93 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-237PM)
3/19/93 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-225PM)
**4/19/93 Unrated special report (130-210PM) (Note: May not have aired anywhere but might have been skipped to not mess up a YR crossover that same week, so officially being put on the partial preemption list)    

 

15 hours ago, Troppo said:

Jason, thank you SO much for your efforts. It is sincerely appreciated!

It looks like Feb 21st 1992 may be a preemption also. Can you verify?

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/9u6_TNhySKU/m/6YLQC3q47msJ

I re-checked the Nielsen data, and on 2/21/92, the Winter Olympics aired from 11AM-130PM, so then BB aired at its regular time of 130PM.

Edited November 7, 20232 yr by JAS0N47

6 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

62 Confirmed Full Preemptions of BB: March 1987-July 1993: (64 TOTAL)

2 Preemptions yet to confirm between February 1991-August 1991.

 

7/7/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)              
7/8/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)                 
7/9/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)     
7/10/87 The Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)      
7/14/87 Young and the Restless (1-2PM)
7/15/87 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)       
7/17/87 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)
7/23/87 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)                  
7/29/87 Iran Contra Hearings 26 (1230-630PM)
8/3/87 (Local Fill for local news after Iran Contra Hearings 27, 9AM-122PM & $25,000 Pyramid 122-130PM)                       
9/7/87 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)                  
9/11/87 US Open Tennis (11AM-302PM)                 
11/26/87 J.T. (130-230PM)
11/27/87 A Thanksgiving Treasure (1230-2PM)     
12/8/87 Unrated Summit Signing Ceremony (unknown timings)                       
12/25/87 NBA on CBS (12-230PM)
12/31/87 As the World Turns (130-230PM)
1/1/88 Cotton Bowl (130-504PM)                 
2/15/88 NBA on CBS (130-4PM)               
9/5/88 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)                      
9/9/88 US Open Tennis 2 (123-4PM)                    
11/24/88 NFL Football (1230-311PM)
11/25/88 Care Bears Movie II (1230-2PM)                
12/26/88 Movie Special: Quarterback Princess (1230-2PM)
1/2/89 Cotton Bowl (130-445PM)
1/20/89 Price Is Right 2 (130-2PM)
2/20/89 NBA on CBS (130-4PM)

9/4/89 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)

9/8/89 US Open Tennis 2 (112-547PM) 
11/23/89 Dink the Little Dinosaur (130-2PM)

11/24/89 Garfield & Friends (130-2PM)
12/25/89 Homecoming (1230-230PM)

1/1/90 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-516PM)
2/19/90 NBA on CBS (130-408PM)

9/3/90 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/7/90 US Open Tennis (1236-530PM)

11/22/90 H.R. Pufnstuf (130-2PM)
11/23/90 A Boy Named Charlie Brown (1230-230PM)
12/25/90 Homecoming: Christmas Story (1230-230PM)
1/1/91 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-519PM)

1/9/91 Unrated CBS Special Report- Geneva (unknown timings)

1/17/91 War in the Gulf 3 (10AM-4PM)

1/30/91 Unrated War in the Gulf 36 (unknown timings)

2/15/91 Unrated War in the Gulf 39 (unknown timings)  

(2 Preemptions to confirm from February 1991-August 1991)
9/2/91 US Open Tennis (1230-7PM)
9/6/91 (Local Fill for US Open Tennis)
10/11/91 (Local Fill for Thomas Senate Hearings)
11/28/91 NFL Football (1234-340PM)
12/25/91 Movie: Homecoming (1-3PM)
1/1/92 Mobil Cotton Bowl (130-530PM)
2/17/92 XVI Winter Olympics (1-6PM)
3/19/92 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-238PM)
3/20/92 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-240PM)
9/7/92 US Open Tennis (1230-6PM)
9/11/92 US Open Tennis (1230-5PM)
11/26/92 Bugs Bunny Thanksgiving Diet (130-2PM)
12/25/92 House Without a Christmas Tree (1230-2PM)
1/1/93 Blockbuster Bowl (130-506PM)
1/20/93 Family Feud Special (130-2PM)
3/18/93 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-237PM)
3/19/93 NCAA Basketball: Various Teams (1210-225PM)
4/19/93 Unrated special report (130-210PM)

 

From another list, yet confirmed:

2/27/91? (If this is a full preemption, then the numbers don't add up; that could only mean an entire episode was fully skipped?)
3/14/91 March Madness
3/15/91 March Madness

I re-checked the Nielsen data, and on 2/21/92, the Winter Olympics aired from 11AM-130PM, so then BB aired at its regular time of 130PM.

Thanks! I was a bit confused because of that thread, and there was no mention of Feb 17th 1992 Winter Olympics coverage anywhere, but all good.

As for Feb 27th 1991, there is a mention of a preemption in this thread: https://groups.google.com/g/rec.arts.tv.soaps/c/QRTQmhjV8uI/m/XpTG-xip1fkJ

I had Feb 1st 1991 as a preemption. So Episode 966 aired on Jan 31st and not the 30th. And Feb 15th is a confirmed preemption. We now have all of 1991 accounted for.

Final teaser before I find out about the BB preemption or not for 2/27:

It is at least not a regular rated episode...

 

And...it did not air on Wed. 2/27.  So, if those two NBA preemptions in March 1991 are correct, then the Episode #s for BB do not line up as of July 1993. One of the "full preemptions" had to have been skipped, or two episodes at one point were edited into one, or they accidentally skipped an episode #?

The mystery begins...

18 minutes ago, JAS0N47 said:

Final teaser before I find out about the BB preemption or not for 2/27:

It is at least not a regular rated episode...

 

And...it did not air on Wed. 2/27.  So, if those two NBA preemptions in March 1991 are correct, then the Episode #s for BB do not line up as of July 1993. One of the "full preemptions" had to have been skipped, or two episodes at one point were edited into one, or they accidentally skipped an episode #?

The mystery begins...

The only thing I noticed was the Apr 19th 1993 preemption you listed. I don't have that one. Time to check Usenet again lol

Found something.

Apparently B&B was preempted on Apr 19th and 20th 1993 on the East Coast. Maybe the episodes aired at a later time?

14 minutes ago, Troppo said:

The only thing I noticed was the Apr 19th 1993 preemption you listed. I don't have that one. Time to check Usenet again lol

Found something.

Apparently B&B was preempted on Apr 19th and 20th 1993 on the East Coast. Maybe the episodes aired at a later time?

Everything from usenet, to the official YT page with the episodes definitely all add up accordingly. I suggested maybe they had to either skip 4/19/93 completely and not air it the next day because of messing with the continuity of Lauren/Sheila, or they aired two episodes 4/20/93...or maybe even for the East Coast viewers, on 4/21/93 they aired 3 episodes? the missing two from 4/19-4/20 and of course 4/21/93. 

8 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

Everything from usenet, to the official YT page with the episodes definitely all add up accordingly. I suggested maybe they had to either skip 4/19/93 completely and not air it the next day because of messing with the continuity of Lauren/Sheila, or they aired two episodes 4/20/93...or maybe even for the East Coast viewers, on 4/21/93 they aired 3 episodes? the missing two from 4/19-4/20 and of course 4/21/93. 

All those scenarios sound plausible. I noticed the two episodes (1522 and 1523) feature an early appearance of Don Diamont (as his Y&R character). Perhaps that had something to do with it?