Members Vizion Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 General Hospital Tragedy: Has This Soap Finally Gone Too Far? A toddler transplant on 'General Hospital' The New York Post and LA Times also posted articles bashing this story. I think the reaction is interesting, and I can't disagree with much of what he said, but I thought I'd make this a main post to talk, not only about this story, but about stories like these (the death of children on soaps). Is it too far? Too much? What do you think is too far for daytime or do you think that even exists? Is the problem less about killing a child and more about the way the story is told? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Thanks for posting this. I'm glad that they pointed out the story sucks because of how poorly told it is, not because a child died. I think Guza and JFP and Frons want publicity for the oh so shocking move to murder a child, when the story is a big failure for many other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vizion Posted March 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 No problem. The best part of the whole article might be this (or perhaps it's just the part I enjoyed the most): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Great article. It's tough to know though how much of this is honest criticism and how much of this is just anger at the killing of Jake Morgan. Is Rebecca Herbst the most popular actress on the show as this article contends? Perhaps, but that seems almost impossible to gauge. Other than that, just about everything in there seems right on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khan Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Oh, please. GH has gone "too far" so often, Jake's death doesn't even register a blip on the shock meter. It's almost as if this show has desensitized its viewers to violence of all kinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members All My Shadows Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Where were they on the day of Ye Olde-Fashioned Good Fridae Shoot-Out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I cop to that. I don't care the kid is dead and wasn't sad for even a moment. I don't know Jake, I don't know that I ever saw Josslyn, and frankly, I am just happy they gave Luke some story. The kids should have been Morgan and Molly. At least we know them. Josslyn dying, as this writer suggests, does nothing for me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marley Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 The article seems like it was written by a disgruntled fangurl. I don't agree wtih killing off Jake since I believe Jake had more storyline potential than all the other kids put together but a kid dying on a soap is certainly not going too far and if some people think that then maybe that is what's truly wrong with soaps these days and the reason why weare subjected to who's the daddy storylines and kidnappings recycled over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members remos Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Four thoughts sprang immediately to mind when I read the article. 1. Isn't the writer jumping the gun considering the story has just begun? Many times I've seen posters on various message boards jump at first sign of something because they want to be the one to create the post with the Fan Outrage, only to have egg on their cyber face as the story continues to unfold in ways they didn't predict and the Outrage is totally moot. I think this writer is guilty of the same knee-jerk reaction. 2. If the writer was wrong about BJ's Heart hurting GH, perhaps he's wrong this time too - that obviously hasn't been woven into his thesis. 3. Why is our society so afraid of death? It happens. Not talking about it only makes it more difficult when it happens in real life. 4. And finally, wow….. way to underestimate a viewing audience. We don't want anything that challenges us apparently? That's rather insulting from where I sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Southofnowhere Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Kiling a child can work as a sl. If this was about Luke being charged with DUI doing a few months in prison and getting help it would be a great sl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members remos Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 IMO that was what made BJ's Heart so successful. I've re-watched and the writing wasn't any more stellar than this is. The difference is we knew BJ and we knew Maxie and we cared about who they were as characters, so when Felicia crumbled and cried "Not Barbara Jean" that was the voice of all of us. We've seen these toddlers how often? The investment in their lives just wasn't there. Vets were still used, and IMO a stronger calibre of vets this time around (love JZ but none of them were Emmy winners. This time we've got so many winners/nominees involved we need two hands to count), but they couldn't make us care for the tots. I think this is also part of the oversight. This story was never about Jake and ALL about Luke, Luke's drinking and Luke's relationship with his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vizion Posted March 29, 2011 Author Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members remos Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 ^^ Differ away, that's fine. The pace was different so more could be said at any one time, but this particular telling has used the "white space" in the dialogue to great effect. I actually prefer that to the constant need to keep the dialogue going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mr. Vixen Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 I have to disagree Mama. The writing was far better. It was emotional. It was touching. It MEANT something. The dialogue was strong. Characters interacted. It was altogether written better. And as for the performances, with the exception of BH and now TG, NO ONE even comes close to touching JZ or Brad Maule in the original story. JZ was robbed of her Emmy that year and everyone knew it. And there aren't that many emmy winners involved here. In the core group around the children, there is only one. Becky has been nominated but never won (similar to JZ). Laura's never been nomincated. Ingo's never won, I don't think. JJ may have won, I can't recall, but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members quartermainefan Posted March 29, 2011 Members Share Posted March 29, 2011 Yeah, this isn't even a contest. The writing of the BJ story was a million times better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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