November 22, 201015 yr Member In many cases it's a job which helped them build their career in the first place. I don't care if someone disliked their role, but if they are ashamed just because it was a soap, or just because they saw themselves as better than daytime, then I think it's kind of arrogant and delusional, especially if you're Meg Ryan, who barely ever made any good movies even when she had the choice of anything she wanted to do. If they hate on it JUST because it was a soap opera? yes. If they hate on it because they had a bad experience? Thats fine, IMHO.
November 22, 201015 yr Author Member Im Agree with The Last Post. If They are Just Down On The genre Itself Than sorry Get over yourself. And Actually Those that Truly Make Huge Money As Famous Actors Is Very small Now If its the role that was unsatisfying or the schedule too much I can understand that The Problem I find is more than not is that actors who have left daytime tend to think they were always better than it to begin with Infact Rue McClanahan who I love hated soaps and says so in her interview with TV legends its up On Youtube Edited November 22, 201015 yr by J.W.S
November 22, 201015 yr Member In many cases it's a job which helped them build their career in the first place. How do you do know that it is the soaps that helped them build their career? It is quite possible that they left their soap roles off their resume because it held them back from getting roles. Hollywood doesn't consider soaps this great work of art that their fans do. I don't care if someone disliked their role, but if they are ashamed just because it was a soap, or just because they saw themselves as better than daytime, then I think it's kind of arrogant and delusional, especially if you're Meg Ryan, who barely ever made any good movies even when she had the choice of anything she wanted to do. I just can't relate to this opinion. I may enjoy the soaps now and then, but I don't think that actors and others who look down at them are arrogant or delusional. I do find the lack of self-awareness in some soap fans amusing though. They find it alright to look down their noses on other genres like game shows, talk shows, and court shows, but are offended when others dismiss soaps as crap. Edited November 22, 201015 yr by Ann_SS
November 22, 201015 yr Member But it's OK to be annoyed by someone like Meg Ryan if I like court shows, talk shows, and game shows, right? Because I do like all of those, at least when they're good. How do you do know that it is the soaps that helped them build their career? It is quite possible that they left their soap roles off their resume because it held them back from getting roles. Hollywood doesn't consider soaps this great work of art that their fans do. If someone is an extra on a soap and doesn't want to talk about it, then I agree it didn't help build their career, but in the case of someone like Meg Ryan, or Shemar Moore, I think it was a huge part of their career. Not only in making them a face many would recognize and be fond of, but also in training how to quickly learn dialogue, blocking, the proper lighting, meeting a lot of very professional actors who do their best to help younger actors grow and adapt to a wide variety of emotional situations. Someone like Meg Ryan was never successful in Hollywood for artistic merit anyway. That's why I call it delusional. Edited November 22, 201015 yr by CarlD2
November 22, 201015 yr Member Meg talks about her ATWT experience 6:20 in the first clip. Frank Runyeon and Scott Bryce are also interviewed. <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2idKAkz4w?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2idKAkz4w?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM2idKAkz4w?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> She continues talking about her ATWT experience in this clip as well: <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThtxOyBhZM?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThtxOyBhZM?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RThtxOyBhZM?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object> It seems like she had personal problems with the character of Betsy more than anything else.
November 22, 201015 yr Member I may enjoy the soaps now and then Your 4,196 posts would indicate that, yes. Now sit down. No one's impressed.
November 22, 201015 yr Member Thanks for finding that clip. I miss the old E... I mostly remember how she seemed so embarrassed when Rosie talked to her about it. That and the Actor's Studio thing. I don't blame her for seeing Betsy as not the best character but she did have her moments.
November 22, 201015 yr Member Funny thing is that Betsy is not all that much different from most of the popular film roles she's taken on. People associate her with being the bubbly girl next door heroine, which is exactly what her Betsy was.
November 22, 201015 yr Member It's the people who take subtle pot shots at people who choose to stay in soaps that irk me. "That was high school," my ass. And what was Soul Train? Community college? You are killing me.
November 22, 201015 yr Member How do you do know that it is the soaps that helped them build their career? It is quite possible that they left their soap roles off their resume because it held them back from getting roles. Hollywood doesn't consider soaps this great work of art that their fans do. I just can't relate to this opinion. I may enjoy the soaps now and then, but I don't think that actors and others who look down at them are arrogant or delusional. I do find the lack of self-awareness in some soap fans amusing though. They find it alright to look down their noses on other genres like game shows, talk shows, and court shows, but are offended when others dismiss soaps as crap. Everyone here knows the rep soaps have in the business, undeserved and deserved. It's true, a fabulous soap career and a handful of Daytime Emmys "don't impress (Hollywood) much", but to go flappin' yer gums about the crap genre that kept your ungrateful ass employed is certainly dipping into unfavorable territory. I'm sure they didn't have a problem with soaps when they were cashing those checks, and if soaps were such career poison they shouldn't have signed on to begin with, and if they didn't know better and thought they'd be some wonderful star-making stepping stone, well, lesson learned. It's fine if you can look back and say that you didn't care for the work demands (pages and pages of dialogue to study and memorize [not like most of these folks were breaking down their scripts Joan van Ark-style anyway, but that's a separate subject], virtually no time for social life, long hours, uneven writing, et cetera). But I think we can all tell the difference between someone expressing their personal likes and dislikes and someone being a primetime priss making condescending remarks.
November 22, 201015 yr Member Exactly. I have had like 11 jobs, and i trash almost all of them because in the end, they were awful for one reason or another. I would not be in the job i am in if it wasnt for at least some of them, but i owe them nothing, they owe me nothing. Its the same with actors. I remember Claire Danes said that she was offered a role in a soap when she was a kid but turned it down because she didn't want to develop bad habits. I don't know exactly what she meant by that. The folks over at DC freaked out in such a show of defensive pearl clutching and desperate preciousness it was like she'd pissed on Doug Marland's grave. Has Michelle Forbes talked about her GL run? I don't recall ever seeing talk about it. Michelle Forbes is one of those actors I fell in love with because of soaps and have shamelessly followed everything else they've ever done along with Jessica Tuck, Cynthia Watros and the aforementioned MBJ. Forbes has the multiple curse of having worked soaps to Star Trek to True Blood. She's dealt with every layer of psycho fan. Edited November 22, 201015 yr by marceline
November 22, 201015 yr Member I believe Morgan Freeman is pretty down on his soap days, though I may be confusing that with his fury over The Electric Company. He's crotchety in general but I can't blame him given his usage on AW. I remember Ellen Holly saying Freeman was passed up for the role of Dr. Jack Scott, the man Carla cheated on Ed with on OLTL. And I remember Charles Keating from AW bitching about how poorly Morgan Freeman had been utilized. Could someone give me a run down on Morgan Freeman's character on AW, please?
November 22, 201015 yr Member He was an architect. He dated and eventually married Henrietta Morgan, and they left town. This was when AW was attempting to integrate black characters into the canvas, thanks to writer Corrinne Jacker. He might have started around the time Jacker was leaving, I'm not sure. He lasted about a year. http://www.igs.net/~awhp/1roy.html http://www.igs.net/~awhp/1henrietta.html http://www.igs.net/~awhp/apr1983.htm Edited November 22, 201015 yr by CarlD2
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