37 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Ep 1869 Airdate Tues July 22 1980

Cast

Greg

Stuart

Snapper

Carl

Casey

Mary

Nikki

Paul

Sets/Scenes to be taped on each set

Campus Park

Steve Peggy

Sumiko's Room

Sumiko Matthew

Sumiko Paul

Hospital Room

Mary Carl Casey

Hospital Waiting Area

Greg Stu Snapper 

Greg Snapper Nikki

Greg Snapper

Greg Snapper Jill Nurse

John Abbott Office/Hospital Phone

John Jack

Jack Jill

Jack Jill Snapper

New World Commune Porch

Paul Matthew  Nikki

Paul Nikki Matthew Sumiko

Paul Nikki

Paul Nikki Matthew

Matthew Nikki

Looking at synopses-

Mary was in hospital after her miscarriage

Liz had been shot,by a hitman ordered to kill Greg- hence all the characters also at the hospital

Peggy and Steve were investigating the cult

Looks like Jill got word at Jabot from Snapper about Liz

 

This is Terry Lester's first episode and most likely one of Deborah Adair's. If not her first. Someone once said they remember Deborah's first scenes being at the hospital, so pretty close. According to synopsis, Jack drives Jill to the hospital. 

Edited January 7, 20223 yr by will81

3 minutes ago, will81 said:

This is Terry Lester's first episode and most likely one of Deborah Adair's

That is so cool that we were able to match episodes.

 

1 hour ago, Manny said:

Ah yes, thats the guy!

Okay, so I guess he won't stick around for long then

Thank you!

Don't think he does stick around long, maybe just a few months. Pretty certain he never made it to 1997. 

2 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

That is so cool that we were able to match episodes.

 

Yeah it's awesome you were able to find this. Here is the newspaper article from July 24, 1980. Also mentions his next two episode dates.

I have a sneaking suspicion Deborah Adair and Brett Halsey were both brought on the same week. Maybe they started on Mon July 21 and Terry came on the next day. 

What did people think of the original Jack/Jill/John triangle of 1980-81? I wish it was available to see. Was it even brought up again in 1982 when John and Jill got back together?

38 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

What did people think of the original Jack/Jill/John triangle of 1980-81? I wish it was available to see. Was it even brought up again in 1982 when John and Jill got back together?

 

4/19/82 is in the vault. There’s a flashback to the spring ’81 hook-up of Jack and Jill, so you can get a little glimpse. I think that flashback has a newly-created insert of Jerry Douglas’ John discovering Jack and Jill hooking up. Where in the original scene, I assume it was Brett Halsey’s John discovering them, and that’s when Brett H was let go.

When John returned to town, Jill definitely had some atoning to do for sleeping with Jack, as she reconnected with John.

3 hours ago, Paul Raven said:

Ep 1869 Airdate Tues July 22 1980

Cast

Greg

Stuart

Snapper

Carl

Casey

Mary

Nikki

Paul

John

Jack

Jill

Matthew

Sumiko

Steve

Peggy

Sets/Scenes to be taped on each set

Campus Park

Steve Peggy

Sumiko's Room

Sumiko Matthew

Sumiko Paul

Hospital Room

Mary Carl Casey

Hospital Waiting Area

Greg Stu Snapper 

Greg Snapper Nikki

Greg Snapper

Greg Snapper Jill Nurse

John Abbott Office/Hospital Phone

John Jack

Jack Jill

Jack Jill Snapper

New World Commune Porch

Paul Matthew  Nikki

Paul Nikki Matthew Sumiko

Paul Nikki

Paul Nikki Matthew

Matthew Nikki

Looking at synopses-

Mary was in hospital after her miscarriage

Liz had been shot,by a hitman ordered to kill Greg- hence all the characters also at the hospital

Peggy and Steve were investigating the cult

Looks like Jill got word at Jabot from Snapper about Liz

 

Oh how I so wish we could find more episodes or edits from 1980…it would be so wonderful to see these scenes and storylines played out. They must be out there somewhere!

2 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

 

4/19/82 is in the vault. There’s a flashback to the spring ’81 hook-up of Jack and Jill, so you can get a little glimpse. I think that flashback has a newly-created insert of Jerry Douglas’ John discovering Jack and Jill hooking up. Where in the original scene, I assume it was Brett Halsey’s John discovering them, and that’s when Brett H was let go.

When John returned to town, Jill definitely had some atoning to do for sleeping with Jack, as she reconnected with John.

Thanks! I know Jill got involved with Andy of all people afterwards so it’s interesting to me that on how John and Jill would reunite the following years. 

2 hours ago, yrfan1983 said:

 

4/19/82 is in the vault. There’s a flashback to the spring ’81 hook-up of Jack and Jill, so you can get a little glimpse. I think that flashback has a newly-created insert of Jerry Douglas’ John discovering Jack and Jill hooking up. Where in the original scene, I assume it was Brett Halsey’s John discovering them, and that’s when Brett H was let go.

When John returned to town, Jill definitely had some atoning to do for sleeping with Jack, as she reconnected with John.

Thanks! I know Jill got involved with Andy of all people afterwards so it’s interesting to me that on how John and Jill would reunite the following years. 

5 hours ago, ltm1997 said:

Oh how I so wish we could find more episodes or edits from 1980…it would be so wonderful to see these scenes and storylines played out. They must be out there somewhere!

The onl thing I would really love to see would be the cult story. I love a good cult story.. 

From 1996….sorry we have to sit through SS Ashley(would have been 100x had it been either BE or ED) but I just have continued appreciation for Mari Jo & Diane Barton here in this confrontation:

 

 

6 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

What did people think of the original Jack/Jill/John triangle of 1980-81? I wish it was available to see. Was it even brought up again in 1982 when John and Jill got back together?

I never saw it, but it seems to have been a non starter. Barely anything happens in 1980 and then the triangle ends in Mar 81 and Brett Halsey is shown the door. Apparently he was a dud on the chemistry scale. Seems Bell had more luck with Jill/Jack/Patty over the summer of 1981 before moving Jill on to Andy.

In 1982 Jill makes ammends with John for sleeping with Jack, since Jill and John were never actually together (he was too hesitant to start anything) he forgave her and they began dating.

9 hours ago, will81 said:

I have a sneaking suspicion Deborah Adair and Brett Halsey were both brought on the same week. Maybe they started on Mon July 21 and Terry came on the next day. 

We saw scenes of Bond Gideon with Sean Garrett (?) as John posted here.

The confusion lies with Garrett as he was never announced as playing John, it was always Halsey. The thinking was he was a temp for Halsey.

We need now to solve when the role of John started  and who played him.

4 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

We saw scenes of Bond Gideon with Sean Garrett (?) as John posted here.

The confusion lies with Garrett as he was never announced as playing John, it was always Halsey. The thinking was he was a temp for Halsey.

We need now to solve when the role of John started  and who played him.

Sean Garrison. As I have never seen any of Halsey’s John I thought that was him until learning otherwise. 
 

I mean I liked Gideon as Jill from what we saw but Garrison’s John was strange with that German accent or something. I think someone else mentioned there was a another John as well but it’s probably buried in this thread 100 pages back. 
 

Thanks too @will81. My guess is after Halsey flopped as John Bell decided to pause the character for a while until a suitable actor was cast. 

Jill got the job at Jabot in May, so that is when Brett Halsey was hired also I believe.

He had had two previous soap roles as Clay on SFT and Adam on GH but had done movies in the 60's and lived in Europe for many years and acted there.

He wrote a couple of fiction books based on his experiences.

One was about soaps and had me guessing as to what real life people he based the characters on.

i think Bill just had trouble fitting in all these stories and couldn't get the Jabot story of the ground.

Obviously he was not inspired by Bond as Jill. Although we never know the real reason actors are dropped. Maybe Bond had trouble with the pace of daytime or took John Conboy's parking spot?

37 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

Although we never know the real reason actors are dropped. Maybe Bond had trouble with the pace of daytime or took John Conboy's parking spot?

Bond Gideon's husband is a member of the Facebook YR Classic page. IIRC he posted that Bond's talent agent asked the show for too much money, and the show countered by replacing her with Deborah Adair.

@soapfan770 Shari Shattuck was the worst recast ever. Her first scenes with Victor and Brad felt like chemistry tests which as we saw were not passed. Can't believe Bill Bell didn't realize that during the casting process.