I thought that was a hell of an episode. They took a real chance with different pacing and tone - especially in the pre-credits sequence, with the erratic cutting - and I thought it really worked, and was a wonderful showcase for David Morrissey. It also continued to develop the Governor very differently from the cartoon villain I'm familiar with from the comics, and I thought that was great. Haters to the left. Get out of my life, Darn!

I worry about you...

Edited November 22, 201312 yr by Darn

Do you think Lilly will be like Lilly in the comics? I read that in the game they changed it to make sure people knew that wasn't the Lilly from the comics.

That's not a spoiler, that's just spec.

I have no idea. Kirkman was the one who decided mid-stream that the Lilly in the Walking Dead adventure game was not the same one as in the comics, though the game's writers had already designed and scripted her as such. The Lilly in the game also had a different occupation and skill set, and her father was a different type of guy. According to Kirkman the game is canon to either the comic or the show but I can't remember which.

All I remember about comic Lilly was that she was one of the Governor's foot soldiers. I can't see that happening here.

Casting news.

http://www.spoilertv.com/2013/11/the-walking-dead-season-4-andrew-j-west.html

I am ambivalent about tonight's episode, but I am watching.

OMG, it is Miguel from OZ, played by the adorable and talented Kirk Acevado.

Edited November 25, 201312 yr by Ann_SS

Aw hell!

Arm wrestling? Good grief is there anything that they won't make into a reality show?

Wow, that Tammie L. fan did a great job making herself into scary ass zombie.

Edited November 25, 201312 yr by Ann_SS

Wait, Martinez has not told them how dangerous Phillip is?

I'm turning to the tennis channel! I'm not watching this eppy!

The new writer is bogus for this crap! This is not The Walking Dead. It's The Redemption of Phillip!

GMAFB!

That freaked me out. They were saving the heads like Phillip did.

I'm turning to the tennis channel! I'm not watching this eppy!

The new writer is bogus for this crap! This is not The Walking Dead. It's The Redemption of Phillip!

GMAFB!

I really don't think that this is the redemption of Phillip. I bet that the real Phillip comes out by the end of the episode.

Oh, Martinez don't fall for his [!@#$%^&*]. He will kill your ass in a heartbeat.

That freaked me out. They were saving the heads like Phillip did.

I really don't think that this is the redemption of Phillip. I bet that the real Phillip comes out by the end of the episode.

Either way, it's a waste. If this is really to fool everyone, it's a really stupid way to squander 2 eppies!

Phillip's control is slipping. He cannot stand being told what to do or not being in control.

I knew it. Phillip is back. Ah, Martinez, you should have known better. What a horrible way to die!

Edited November 25, 201312 yr by Ann_SS

Daaaaamn

Why were they keeping a pit of walkers anyway? Who thought that was a good idea?

I cannot believe they did not consider the possibility that Martinez was murdered.

Well, that is Pete dead.

Who killed them and so quietly?

Edited November 25, 201312 yr by Ann_SS