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October 4-8, 2010

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It's interesting though because I think some soaps from 30 years ago were much more intelligent than what we have today. GL and Ryan's Hope, for instance. OLTL. AMC.

I think one of the biggest failings of soaps was to never transition out of business stories once the Dynasty era ended. Or at the very least sometime in the mid-90s. There is no reason why the Chandlers need to still have business stories. Just bankrupt them all. Say that Adam has enough stashed away to live comfortably with Brooke and that his kids are now grown and can fend for themselves.

I disagree. Americans spend more time at work now than ever so I think a show with no business/work stories would be even harder to relate to. Plus workplace stories make it possible to introduce new characters and mix them together in far more organic ways so you don't have to shoehorn someone into a "core" family by making them some long lost whatever (another type of story that should be retired) and you don't have to kill them off to get rid of them. Workplace stories can work as long as the writers use some basic sense. Chandler being run out of the living room isn't basic sense. One thing I think AMC has done very right is to incorporate modern usage of cellphones and blogs and the web into their business stories.

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I disagree. Americans spend more time at work now than ever so I think a show with no business/work stories would be even harder to relate to. Plus workplace stories make it possible to introduce new characters and mix them together in far more organic ways so you don't have to shoehorn someone into a "core" family by making them some long lost whatever (another type of story that should be retired) and you don't have to kill them off to get rid of them. Workplace stories can work as long as the writers use some basic sense. Chandler being run out of the living room isn't basic sense. One thing I think AMC has done very right is to incorporate modern usage of cellphones and blogs and the web into their business stories.

I think workplace stories can make sense but not the big multinational conglomerates that some soaps still cling to. I think it just looks silly because they no longer have the budget to present this type of setting. As it is now even with corporate settings it's difficult to care. It just becomes a crutch.

I think soaps should just build cheap office sets (although I don't mean Fusion) and other more common workplace settings and move on from the days of big companies.

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The View is pathetic and hosts like Joy, Elizabeth, Rosie or Whoppi know sh*t about politics. I guess the network wants them to come off as 'rugular' people but dummys talking politics is dangerous. The View should be the liberal Fox talk show. I wish the major networks would avoid this stuff and let PBS and CSPAN handle information.

What wrong with Meet The Press, Face the Nation, and Amanpour?

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