B&B: September Discussion Thread

[P.J.]

I like Bridget and Owen enough too. Certainly better than Budge and Nick. I'm all for Budge getting some happiness with a man her mother hasn't slept with.

[JSROCKS]

I'd like Bridget to find happiness as well, just don't know if Owen is the one to provide it. TIIC seem to be angling for the old "and baby makes three" storyline with the older wife out in the cold. Rather than see Step-phony be right for the gazillionth time, I'd have the three be (Jackie/baby/Owen) with Bridget being the crazed outsider using the baby as the wedge.

[Cheap21]

I think B&B needs a complete overhaul and restructure. It was great in the summer but as the scandal plot has died down, there doesnt really seem to be much. The show seems to be centered around a triangle with the Forresters at one end, Jackie M/Marones at another and Spencer as the 3rd. Id dismantle Jackie M and incorporate it into Spencer as Bill is stronger as a lead character than Nick or Jackie

Characters to drop:

Jackie

Owen

Nick

Agnes

Oliver

Whip

Donna

Marcus

Justin

Sure thats alot, but really they dont seem to work and/or dont have much going for them. I would actually give LA another earthquake and use that disaster to kill off a bunch of them. Owen, Agnes, Oliver, Justin and Whip can die. Nick feels he's lost a big part of who he is and doesnt feel happy or fufilled in LA anymore, so he decides he wants to sail again and leaves to do that. Marcus leaves to attend school and Donna goes to be close to him and get away from the Forresters. With her husband dead and her company destroyed by the earthuake, Jackie doesnt feel she has the energy or drive to rebuild. She accepts Bill's offer to buy Jackie M and leaves for a European cruise. The earthquake story would basically be used to get rid of the dead weight and position Bill to make Spencer the secondary force on the show

House of Spencer

Bill's spent so much time trying to get Forrester but realizes it would be much better to start his own, or rather take over another and compete with them. I think Jackie M failed, bc it tried to be a cheap Spectra immitation and no one can immitate Sally. Spencer would be a different empire and a force to be reckoned with. For one, it wont rely heavily on camp. Katie would be appointed CEO and Liam would work for him. Thomas, disgruntled with his treatment at FC, joins up with Spencer. Amber would be kept on from Jackie M. Brooke also realizes that she is fighting an impossible battle as Steffy and Stephanie will never let up on her and accepts Katie's offer to join her new team. This will of course cause problems with Ridge as they are pitted against each other in the fashion world.

Steffy/Bill/Katie/Thorne

Bill may have his own fashion house but he still controls stock in Forrester, which Steffy wants, while he wants hers. They will dance around with each other, trying to one up the other, but ultimatly find themselves in an affair. Katie will grow increasingly suspicious of them and will lean on Thorne. They used to date and will get close again. Despite not being his father, Thorne finds himself drawn to Liam, which Bill hates, and these two men will become main rivals.

Liam/Hope/Ridge/Brooke/Deacon/Bridget

Liam and Hope are cute together and will continue to play up the young love with them. She will continue to help him as he tries to find his new place with his new family. She will also face some issues as she meets her birth father, Deacon for the first time. With Nick gone and Owen dead, Bridget struggles to pick up the pieces of her life and continue on as a single mother. She goes back to practicing medicine (as she did not fit as a fashion designer). Her life is turned upside down when Deacon returns and finds herself drawn back to him. Id put them together and have them be a dysfunctional couple whom tries to make things work. Of course his return will also alarm Brooke, who hasnt dealt with him in ages. Hope wanting to know him better puts Ridge in a bad position and he will fight Deacon as he doesnt want him anywhere near Hope.

Stephanie/Eric

I think one of the biggest problems with B&B is that it relies on the original 4 way too much is scared of letting new blood take over. I think its time these two get married once and for all and thats it. No more divorcing and Eric going after younger women. Let them be stable. Stephanie will of course continue to meddle in her chidlrens lives and offer her opinion and Eric will primarily be limited to the corporate stuff.

Stephen/Pam

They are good as a minor couple. Id continue to showcase them a few episodes a month, nothing big. Eventually they would get married. Pam is good with the comedy and Id rely on her strengths there. They seem to be non-existant these days, but they could work in a limited capacity as supporting characters to their families dramas

Rick/Amber/Thomas

There should have been a triangle here already bc the two guys dont like each other and both have history with Amber. She finds herself drawn to both, not knowing what she wants. Taylor and Brooke however know they dont want her with their son. They at first try and encourage Amber to be with the other and manipualte things which causes the two of them to fight. Eventually they realizes that its better to work together and they plot to get Amber out of their lives for good.

Taylor/Whip

I think she really only works as a Forrester and while Id love to put her back with Ridge, I dont think Bell will ever make her the endgame for him. Maybe they can put her back with Thorne as they only dropped their engagement bc of Alexandra, but I think theres more potential with Katie. It might be best they drop her to recurring and just use her as the mother of Thomas and Steffy as need be. Id keep her with Whip, but Id drop him, writing him being in the other room or out of town during big events.

What do you guys think? I think this would be a great way to restructure B&B Theres enough there that they could rotate around different characters as the lead story while the rest have developments to keep things fresh

[dsvd79]

I love all your ideas! I would keep Whip though. Taylor and him could have a storyline.

[AllMyDaysatGH]

I thought the same exact thing...those birthing scenes were very realistic! One of the most realistic I've ever seen. I thought she did a great job as well.

Couldn't fit Taylor in, sorry lol!!

Great ideas Cheap...the Liam/Hope/Ridge/Brooke/Deacon/Bridget one is my fave, I could see all of this happening. I like your idea about bringing back Hope's dad and having them meet for the first time, I also love Liam/Hope together and that would leave them with something in common (both being acquainted and building relationships with their fathers). LOL, I would be a little sad about Owen dying in the earthquake though, since I like him with Bridget together, but Deacon/Bridgette could be good I guess, he could be a father figure to Bridget and Owen's baby and have what he didn't have with Hope when she was a child.

[mistylane]

I like the story of Bridget and Owen. I like that the love is building slowly. It's not a rushed romance.

[JSROCKS]

+1 This soap needs more cutthroat action. The nature of the business (fashion) demands it.

+1.

[Cheap21]

I love Taylor too but she does kinda feel like she's on borrowed time. Whip, I felt never really belonged and he and Taylor got together with no storyline or much investment in them. I could see them maybe doing a medical story with her having cancer or some other ailment.

Deacon is over at Y&R now but he'd be put to much better use on B&B especially since he's been referenced quite a bit in relation to Hope. His return would definetly have a big impact on all these characters.

Oh IA. I think one of the reasons why Jackie M doesnt work is theres no competitveness between it and FC. The Marones have become friends with the Forresters and things are just too easy breazy. Whip is married to Taylor, who's kids are at FC. Bridget is a Forrester herself and has no reason to want to see FC suffer. Stephanie became close friends with Jackie and Nick. Things are just too nice. It wouldnt be that way if Bill was in charge. FC needs some real competition from a rival company which wants to see it brought down and Bill assembling a team of individuals who have beef with them would accomplish that.

[AllMyDaysatGH]

Jackie is just...a crazed lunatic!! I foresee her doing something very reckless with that baby. Bridgette is going to start trying to drift away from her and she'll want to move out or something with the baby, and Jackie is not gonna have it. She was showing signs today of going crazy...wow @ her saying "my baby" and not giving him to Bridgette when she asked. She is definitely starting to go off the deep end!

And I love the name and idea of Logan Knight ;-).

[P.J.]

I gotta admit, I really liked the Budge/Owen/Logan scenes. I love that they named him Logan too. (I was surprised Brooke and Ridge never used that name.)

It's obvious Jackie's trying too hard. And her criticizing the name was heinously presumptive.

[Cheap21]

I hate when people name children after last names. It didnt make much sense how they explained it. Owen said the baby had her name and his, but Bridget's last name isnt Logan! Its Forrester

[P.J.]

Well, Budge is half Logan. And it was (arguably) her inner Logan she unleashed the night of her ONS with Owen.

[crc]

I loved the end of today's episode when Bridget sprung on Brooke and Rick that she thinks she's in love with Owen. Their horrified faces and hers ... I don't know what it was, bliss? The contrast was just so funny. That look on Ashley Jones face just cracked me up, trembling lips and all.

[P.J.]

GOD Jackie pissed me off today. Did she REALLY lay Logan in Stephanie's arms and call her the matriarch of his family?

And in true Steph style, two minutes later she's calling Bridget a slut. NICE. Not.

[Cheap21]

Jackie: "She's a Forrester"

Stephanie: "She's a Logan. It passes on through the mother" LMAO! That was funny but Im not liking the extreme change in attitude Jackie has done. She was always level heade din this story. They are making her borderline psychotic and it seems to have come way too fast and out of nowhere. And Bridget is in love with Owen? This story has some serious pacing and writing issues

And eww, today Rick called Bridget, Budge. Ive seen people on here refer to her as that and I thought it was just some fan nickname to insult her. Is tehre a story behind that on the show abc Ive never heard her referred to that before. What an ugly nickname for Rick to call his sister

Bill needs to tone down his hate. Its over the top and unnecesay.

Not sure I like Hope's new hair color and the style. It was weird not seeign her with the rest of teh family and she should have been there instead. Surprised Katie was invited. I cant recall Bridget having anything to do with her since the Nick situation

When is Jennifer Gareis going on materntiy leave? She's as big as a house and it feels as if she's been pregnant forever. She disappears for a couple of weeks nad I think she's gone but then she pops up out of nowhere