EXACTLY. I remember a scene where she was drinking champagne at some party/gala and when someone questioned her she had to remind them (US!) that she looked young for her age.

This is exactly the scene I was recalling!

That was a really fun time to be a fan of the show!

That was a really fun time to be a fan of the show!

It was. But I really hated SMG.

Angie and Jesse being in their 40s made me say "Whaaa?" for a brief second then I did the math in my head, and that's definitely about right. Did they graduate before or after Frankie was born in '83? They should be about 46ish, 47ish. Debbi and Nelli are both in their mid-50s but they can easily rep the 40s.

As of 2008, Jesse "died" at the age of 24 on June 28, 1988. He was born February 8, 1964, which makes Jesse 46 today... 9 years younger than, um, Nelli... (BWA-HA HA HA HA HA!!!)

Same. What made me was the way Debbi kinda punched the line, like SMG's Kendall used to do about being in her twenties.

That's subjective, I guess. I didn't notice it. It's not as if she was a 63 year old actress passing herself off as 40... the way someone else might. I'm surprised Erica hasn't "accidentally" let a tampon slip out of her purse.

Debbi is the same age as Julia Barr, right? But plays a good decade younger?

Julia's 1949, Debbi's 1956.

ETA: I've also noticed a trend on this show. Everyone who dies and has a tombstone, dies at 25.

Edited June 21, 201015 yr by R Sinclair

I HATED the concept, intent & execution of "Jesse has two families" but AMC HAD the tools to make it work.

What tools?

Things I can't get past even now... how do you explain Jesse not telling his wife and son that he had a child? How do you explain Jesse going on the run because it wasn't safe for Angie and Frankie to be near him yet inside of 3 months of abandoning them, he is bedding his shrink and starting another family, a family he spend the entire time with...

Why wasn't Natalia important enough for Jesse to tell Angie and Frankie about her? Why was it more important to deny her very existence than to have Angie and Frankie know that Jesse was lying through his teeth since he stepped back into their lives. And don't get me started on a mother who was A-OK and even making excuses for a man who denies his child because he doesn't want his "real" family to know she exists. The very fact that Jesse would treat his child the way he treated Natalia totally lambasted the Jesse I knew and loved and I honestly can not think of an explanation that would explain why he first off put Natalia in danger her whole life... his excuse for not coming back to Angie and Frankie was because being around him would put them in danger... and then why would Jesse not tell Angie about her and then when she came to town begging for his help, he told her to get lost before his "real" family discovered who she was... no explanation can be given that would make Jesse look like anything except a no good, dirty dog of the lowest order.

Sorry for the rant... long time lurker, second time poster hee!

Natalia is the only good thing to come out of the Jesse's other family twist. That thing overall was mess that they brought up and proceeded to handle half ass. One thing that bothered me was that Angie didnt get mad. That could have been a good oppurtunity to add some tension to their marriage and have her lash out but she was too easy breazy about it and understanding. It would have been more realistic for her to be pissed with him and need time to get move on. He said that he stayed away for 20 years bc he was constantly on the run for fear of being killed and putting she and Frankie in danger. Instead he was settld down living wth his common law wife and daughter who he abandoned and kept secret. That right there was ripe for instant drama but we didnt get it

Exactly... not to mention Angie should have questioned every single word Jesse uttered since his return... even those vows about being in darkness yada, yada, yada... Angie should have been wondering who the hell she had married for a 3rd time and she definitely should have put him out... at least for a time.

And then to kill off Rebecca without so much as one tears and snot shouting match between the wives, I know the poor woman was dying, but HELLO, SOAP OPERA!

I hated that Angie never got to confront Rebecca on the fact that she bedded her patient... we were told how Rebecca "saved" Jesse and we know she was a shrink... so why was it never brought up how inapproiate this relationship was from the get go... plus Angie was so beholden, so greatful to Rebecca as if she did a favor for Angie yet no one ever questioned why it took her 20 years to "sent Jesse back"... please!!!

I LMAO when Angie said she and Jesse were "in [their] forties." Please, neither of them has seen 40something for quite some time.

that may be true of the actors but not of Angie and Jesse. They had Frankie when they were 19... in '08, Frankie was 25 so he's what 27 or will be 27 this year... so Angie and Jesse are 46ish this year... their ages are indeed real and in line with history.

Edited June 21, 201015 yr by Sleepy

What tools?

Tools as far as acting.

Outside of Vasi there isn't/wasn't a weak actor in the bunch.

Pratt's writing not so much.

Tools as far as acting.

Outside of Vasi there isn't/wasn't a weak actor in the bunch.

gotcha!! And I agree on ALL points

Do you guys think they will get rid of Denise?? I mean she went from frontburner to now support, maybe the next step is out the door?!

I don't know. Since AMC is racist, they probably won't use her... but still progressive enough of a racist show that they will keep her on as the token black hispanic. Remember. AMC is racist.

Alright...I'm not gonna create a new post for this, but I just wanted to say I saw the Kelly/Mark Consuelos go back to AMC clipshow on Regis and Kelly today and it was quite a treat, but more than anything, I saw how Kelly(whether she faked knowing all of those people or not) still remembered her AMC family and I thought that was great, even though I absolutely detest Judy Blye Wilson, who I think is a terrible director.

I can see why people were so torn about the show moving to L.A., even though I think it was better for the show's look and its survival. It makes me sad thinking about all those people that might have lost jobs because AMC chose to move out west.

I don't know. Since AMC is racist, they probably won't use her... but still progressive enough of a racist show that they will keep her on as the token black hispanic. Remember. AMC is racist.

I like the character of Randi I just don't like Denise's portrayal of her. It's obvious she is dead weight so why not recast the role??? I want Denise gone not the character. Cornelius deserves better, way better but since she is gorgeous and has all these fans I guess they feel obligated to keep her in the role.

lol@ the Hubbards in the boot

Aww. So desperate.

why not recast the role???

One guess.

One guess.

Im clueless

I like Randi & Vasi.

Love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!