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Anyone watch these shows? I absolutely love them. Ive watched NJ and Atlanta and now they are airing NY. Couldnt get into the Orange County. Too many blondes and fake boobs. Anyone else watching the current season of NY. Lots of drama. My favorites are Bethany and Kelly. I also like Jill although she bugs me. Alex does nothing for me and I cant stand Ramona and LuAnn

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If something happens and Teresa can't film, and Caroline is leaving, what are they going to show?

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If something happens and Teresa can't film, and Caroline is leaving, what are they going to show?

I read they are currently test filming with twin sisters who have no connection to any of the current ladies as well as the tidbit about a familiar face joining as a full time HW. We shall see. Teresa's trial starts in February so it will be interesting what she will say and/or do in the upcoming season. I love her but I feel like she should have quit the show but I will be here watching. LOL.

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Kathy is looking beat and snatched. My girl better WERK!

And I'm glad Caroline is exiting. I'm content with keeping the other four but adding 3 dramatic, spicy bitches to rival Tre and create drama. It's time RHONJ had 7 wives.

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So if Alexis and Gretchen are both leaving RHOC... who will Tamra and Vicki pick on? Lydia? A new housewife?

Calling it now. Lydia & Heather will feel the heat of Trashy Barnyard & Dirty Granny. Lydia b/c she and Brianna had a little spat at the reunion (which petty Vicki won't have gotten over) and the fact Lydia is now very close to Gretchen. And on Trampy's spinoff, you could already see her snapping on Heather (re: her bachelorette party in Mexico). Plus, I see Vicki v. Tams 2.0 b/c of Brooks, who she's still seeing, and b/c Tamra will need a formidable opponent, who she has goods on . . . Vicki.

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I read they are currently test filming with twin sisters who have no connection to any of the current ladies as well as the tidbit about a familiar face joining as a full time HW. We shall see. Teresa's trial starts in February so it will be interesting what she will say and/or do in the upcoming season. I love her but I feel like she should have quit the show but I will be here watching. LOL.

I wonder if there will be any reason for Kathy to be there. Is she popular in her own right? Or is it just because they won't be able to make too many changes?

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I wonder if there will be any reason for Kathy to be there. Is she popular in her own right? Or is it just because they won't be able to make too many changes?

well in the clip I posted above, its rumored that she's been downgraded to a friend. If true, she'll appear as need be as extended family to Teresa and Melissa

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If it were me, I'd get rid of Jacqueline, but I guess she still has fans and has the story with her son.

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If it were me, I'd get rid of Jacqueline, but I guess she still has fans and has the story with her son.

the rumor is she has been dropped.. I think Andy is finally about to retool the series

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Sorry, I should have read the article you linked to. My DSL's a little on the fritz and it takes a while for websites to come up so I don't bother as much.

Part of me thinks they should just retire this franchise but I guess they see it as name value. And I guess they still have Melissa, who has her fans, presumably.

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Andy needs to retool RHOC, RHOM, & RHONJ totally. Start from scratch. Or end them and move to different locations like Dallas, Seattle, Toronto, possibly an international franchise.

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I don't know the source or the validity, but on a link I read off twitter, it was giving some alleged "insider info" on what really went down behind the scenes this past season on Jersey.

Apparently, it's a open secret that Al has been having an affair with some woman named Jill for the past 5-6 years and Caroline has known about it the past 3-4. Bravo was apparently dead set on getting this secret exposed this season and using it for storyline, but once Caroline caught wind, she had a temper tantrum and so they've heavily edited around what's all gone down between the ladies. Bravo pushed to get Penny on the show because she knew about this secret, but once things had to be reworked, they instead focused on Melissa's rumored (well, factual, according to this site) affair. But Bravo was stupid by focusing on who tried to expose the secret (Teresa? Penny? Kim D?) instead of focusing on the affair itself.

Lots to read, and I don't want to reiterate all that I read because I don't want to get it wrong and accidentally spin it another way. Either way, it was an interesting read. And it sounded like Bravo edited the HELL out of this season, in terms of taking certain confrontations out and totally rearranging the timeline of events.

I'm glad Caroline is leaving. Way too hypocritical and sanctimonious. She was entertaining for the most part for the first 3 seasons, but is indeed a "bitter ginger with a twist of lemonface" nowadays. Glad to hear they're finally revamping this series. I could honestly live without all four ladies, and keep Teresa around until she goes to jail.

Re: RHONY.... I wonder if Bravo would think to bastardize the New York ladies by treating it like Miami and putting it on after a stronger Housewives. Couldn't you see New York coming on after Beverly Hills half-way into BH's new season?

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I buy it. Albie alluded in a previous episode that their marriage wasn't perfect and Caroline was pretty much like mind your business. This season showed that she had skeletons that she was wanting to hide

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If the Manso's are out, thenm I doubt they will get rid of the Wahkilis, specially since next season will focus heaviliy on Tre's crminal charges, and then you have the Rosie factor as well.

I see the people who make Tre's hair care product with her daughters name have dropped Tre like a sack of shiot LOL!

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