So, why did they bring Malcolm back anyway and on top of that recast was someone VERY MISCAST?

For what, so he can only make sandwiches on the backburner? Is that how much contempt this writing team has for the audience? It seems like they intentionally pull crap like that to stick it to fans who hate their "writing."

Edited March 22, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

So, why did they bring Malcolm back anyway and on top of that recast was someone VERY MISCAST?

For what, so he can only make sandwiches on the backburner. Is that how much contempt this writing team has for the audience? It seems like they intentionally pull crap like that to stick it to fans who hate their "writing."

It's shameful.

At least McCrary is allowed to appear more than twice a month. McClure doesn't have the same luck.

So, why did they bring Malcolm back anyway and on top of that recast was someone VERY MISCAST?

For what, so he can only make sandwiches on the backburner? Is that how much contempt this writing team has for the audience? It seems like they intentionally pull crap like that to stick it to fans who hate their "writing."

Would not surprise me. Look at the way they're treating Jill to prop Granny Cooper, the way Cane is shoved down the viewers throats, the lack of any kind of minority presence on this show, recasting Abby with an actress half the age of what the character is supposed to be, the manipulation of history which is supposed to make us buy whatever lame duck plot twist they throw.

The people in charge with every level of production of this show should hang their heads in shame, knowing that their names are attached to this garbage.

What's even more appalling is exactly the fact that they seem to resent the show so much. When you watch other bad soaps, you know the writers are bad, but you don't usually get this all-permeating sense that they really detest what they're doing and the audience they do it for.

It's shameful.

At least McCrary is allowed to appear more than twice a month. McClure doesn't have the same luck.

Sandwich making is a fulltime job, y'all!

What's even more appalling is exactly the fact that they seem to resent the show so much. When you watch other bad soaps, you know the writers are bad, but you don't usually get this all-permeating sense that they really detest what they're doing and the audience they do it for.

Not only that, they refuse to think anything they're doing is bad, it's as if they live in denial about this show.

But, as much as they hate to read our posts, they're still lurking here and on other boards.

Edited March 22, 201015 yr by Y&RWorldTurner

What's even more appalling is exactly the fact that they seem to resent the show so much. When you watch other bad soaps, you know the writers are bad, but you don't usually get this all-permeating sense that they really detest what they're doing and the audience they do it for.

I've said before that the way the stories are told and the dialogue are both flippantly bad. Like they don't give a damn that the show is just ghastly and awful.

But, as much as they hate to read our posts, they're still lurking here and on other boards.

Now of course, we don't ALWAYS let fans dictate story.

It's obvious to me that MAB thinks soaps are a joke, so she's writing one like that. It's not supposed to be a show that makes sense, it just supposed to be the usual soapy stuff. But then again, she can't even do that right.

She's been doing the exact opposite of every good soap writing for a year and a half now.

Related?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EufGFcmM5y0

And all of a sudden, the family the show has tried to hard to segregate Lily from like they've done with so many other characters on this show i.e. Billy, Chloe) comes in for her defense and rally around her to cry and cheer her up and say, "Baby, you're gonna MAKE IT!?"

Nice to see Kristoff, Bryton, and Darius got to shoot their scenes while they had their hourlong lunch break from working the sandwich line at the TVCity Commissary.

The people in charge with every level of production of this show should hang their heads in shame, knowing that their names are attached to this garbage.

+1.

So, why did they bring Malcolm back anyway and on top of that recast was someone VERY MISCAST?

For what, so he can only make sandwiches on the backburner? Is that how much contempt this writing team has for the audience? It seems like they intentionally pull crap like that to stick it to fans who hate their "writing."

...Yet when Vicky says it she's "crazy" & "desperate".

At least McCrary is allowed to appear more than twice a month. McClure doesn't have the same luck.

At least he still gets a check.

Vail Bloom's busy stocking Food Lion shelves with Engen.

What's even more appalling is exactly the fact that they seem to resent the show so much. When you watch other bad soaps, you know the writers are bad, but you don't usually get this all-permeating sense that they really detest what they're doing and the audience they do it for.

+1.

Sandwich making is a fulltime job, y'all!

Slicing pastrami is an art form.

This is a woman who studied writing and art in school. And you mean to tell me she is so vapid and completely devoid of any sort of creativity or any sort of artistic integrity to have her name attached to such a bad, convoluted show? Maria makes Dena Higley look like Ernest Hemingway. Someone should chuck "The Art of Fiction" at her head at the next fan event.

I understand soaps are a business and you need to sell, sell, sell. But you can sell and also make the most of the format you've been given. Gottlieb and Riche did and they both came from film/tv industry backgrounds and while some may argue they thought they were above soaps, the biggest difference between them and the loons in charge of these shows(and especially Y&R) is that they understood the medium where they worked and always worked to convey something remotely intelligent or heartfelt to their audience.

Where is that Maria? Your audience is smarter than you give them credit for.

And all of a sudden, the family the show has tried to hard to segregate Lily from like they've done with so many other characters on this show i.e. Billy, Chloe) comes in for her defense and rally around her to cry and cheer her up and say, "Baby, you're gonna MAKE IT!?"

Nice to see Kristoff, Bryton, and Darius got to shoot their scenes while they had their hourlong lunch break from working the sandwich line at the TVCity Commissary.

The people in charge with every level of production of this show should hang their heads in shame, knowing that their names are attached to this garbage.

This show is doing very bad things to me. While I should be happy to see all three, I find myself resenting the characters for giving Lily hope that she'll live! Give VIEWERS hope, not the character. Let Neil take Lily's hand and tell her he'll be there with her until the very end... That's the scene I want, as well as the scene where he does hold her hand until the bitter end.

This is a woman who studied writing and art in school. And you mean to tell me she is so vapid and completely devoid of any sort of creativity or any sort of artistic integrity to have her name attached to such a bad, convoluted show? Maria makes Dena Higley look like Ernest Hemingway. Someone should chuck "The Art of Fiction" at her head at the next fan event.

I understand soaps are a business and you need to sell, sell, sell. But you can sell and also make the most of the format you've been given. Gottlieb and Riche did and they both came from film/tv industry backgrounds and while some may argue they thought they were above soaps, the biggest difference between them and the loons in charge of these shows(and especially Y&R) is that they understood the medium where they worked and always worked to convey something remotely intelligent or heartfelt to their audience.

Where is that Maria? Your audience is smarter than you give them credit for.

Exactly.

Even if Maria can't tell umbrella stories she could at LEAST tell stories with a beginning, middle & end. That's Writing 101.

Exactly.

Even if Maria can't tell umbrella stories she could at LEAST tell stories with a beginning, middle & end. That's Writing 101.

Pretty much.

Someone should chuck "The Art of Fiction" at her head at the next fan event.

Ayn Rand is a bit too much for Maria. Give her something lithe.

Ayn Rand is a bit too much for Maria. Give her something lithe.

I was speaking for the John Gardner version. For beginner writers. She's gotta start somewhere.