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OLTL: What disenfranchised minority groups do.....

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....Crystal Hunt, Scott Clifton and Austin Williams belong to?

If I'm to understand correctly from the recent threads around here. . .

Daphne Duplaix, Timothy Stickney

and
Nathan Purdee
got fired for being black. As will
Tika Sumpter
and the cast of the Evans family.
Scott Evans
and
Brett Claywell
were fired for being/playing gay. Let's go ahead and assume that
Kathy Brier
was let go for being heavy-set (although that doesn't explain why her TV husband was canned too, but never mind him. I guess if he was crazy enough to be in love with a fat chick, then he got what he deserved). For good measure, we'll assume that
Kamar de los Reyes
was thrown under the bus for being Hispanic and
Beth Ann Boner
for playing Muslim. And should they ever get rid of
Eddie Alderson
, that can be chalked up to Matthew being Jewish.

Now that we've established all THAT, I have to ask what disenfranchised minority groups do Crystal Hunt, Scott Clifton and Austin Williams (or the characters they played) belong to, or are associated with? I feel like we're depriving some people their time in the this-is-a-conspiracy spotlight. Oh I forgot, Shane is asthmatic. We'll use that for him.

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Scott Clifton plays a drug-addicted mess of a character who only existed as a prop for Gigi/Rex and if he was going to be paired with anyone it was going to be a black woman who had just been fired. That's what it took for him to be fired. He had to be that far down. Raping women, calling them whores, beating them -- that's OK, that's hot stuff, whatever.

When this and an actress who was apparently loathed by her castmates are the only people who were fired that weren't gay/black/playing gay characters, then that's kind of startling.

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I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you saying the above characters were not written out because they were black or gay? If this were the case wouldn't there coincidentally be other black and gay characters spread out on all the shows? Perhaps I am seeing things incorrectly, but year after year OLTL features Todd Manning, Dorian, Cristian, Coma Cop, Jessica and whoever else as their lead characters perpetually in the forefront yet ratings always fall. Then when it is time to write people out and figure out who is the blame, it never seems to be the people on day in and day out. It is always that little actor over there playing someone who isn't a white christian that looks like a model, and now we can add heterosexual. They are the ones who have to go.

That Scott Clifton got fired doesn't negate any of this.

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I don't get this.

Young, white actors get fired too. There aren't even conspiracies about half of the actors you mentioned.

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If I'm to understand correctly from the recent threads around here. . .

Daphne Duplaix, Timothy Stickney

and
Nathan Purdee
got fired for being black. As will
Tika Sumpter
and the cast of the Evans family.
Scott Evans
and
Brett Claywell
were fired for being/playing gay. Let's go ahead and assume that
Kathy Brier
was let go for being heavy-set (although that doesn't explain why her TV husband was canned too, but never mind him. I guess if he was crazy enough to be in love with a fat chick, then he got what he deserved). For good measure, we'll assume that
Kamar de los Reyes
was thrown under the bus for being Hispanic and
Beth Ann Boner
for playing Muslim. And should they ever get rid of
Eddie Alderson
, that can be chalked up to Matthew being Jewish.

Now that we've established all THAT, I have to ask what disenfranchised minority groups do Crystal Hunt, Scott Clifton and Austin Williams (or the characters they played) belong to, or are associated with? I feel like we're depriving some people their time in the this-is-a-conspiracy spotlight. Oh I forgot, Shane is asthmatic. We'll use that for him.

Wow, what a long title for this thread. I agree with what Carl said about Scott Clifton. As for Austin Williams, he wasn't fired...just moved to recurring. However, he wasn't used that much and is only a 13-year-old kid. It's not like someone that young was going to have a front-burner storyline anyway. And, with regards to Crystal Hunt, most viewers disped her character, which had run its course.

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Scott Clifton plays a drug-addicted mess of a character who only existed as a prop for Gigi/Rex and if he was going to be paired with anyone it was going to be a black woman who had just been fired. That's what it took for him to be fired. He had to be that far down.

There has been 0 angst between Schuyler and Rachel in that regard. The two of them are even more platonic than Layla and Fish.

They could have paired him with Jessica and thrown David Fumero to the wolves instead. Would have been the perfect opportunity to cleanse the show even more.

When this and an actress who was apparently loathed by her castmates are the only people who were fired that weren't gay/black/playing gay characters, then that's kind of startling.

Did John Brotherton play a gay or black character too?

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There has been 0 angst between Schuyler and Rachel in that regard. The two of them are even more platonic than Layla and Fish. They could have paired him with Jessica and thrown David Fumero to the wolves instead. Would have been the perfect opportunity to cleanse the show even more.

The reason there were 0 angst scenes is because it was a slow-building story. They built up her increasing connection to Sky, which put more nails in the coffin of her relationship with Greg. They built up that Sky was addicted to Gigi, not genuinely in love with her. The next step was to put them together.

Putting Sky with Jessica would have been pointless because the only purpose of her storyline is to desperately try to create some new use for Jessica beyond being traumatized. They want people to remember the good times and create this fun fantasy Jessica, and part of that in their mind is to throw her back towards Cris. They can use this as some claim they are honoring history, because Jessica dated Cris ten years ago. If they'd put her with Sky, people would have said, "Eww, he made out with her 17 year old cousin and now that she thinks she's a teenager he's with her too."

Did John Brotherton play a gay or black character too?

In the eyes of the ABC people who make these decisions, probably close enough. He was an unworthy character in their eyes, he stood in the way of a Natalie/John reunion.

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What is the purpose of this thread?

I was just about to ask what was the point of this? Seems like unnecesary controversy and pot stirring

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I am not sure what you are trying to say here. Are you saying the above characters were not written out because they were black or gay?

What I'm saying is that every time an actor who fits into a socio-political minority (or plays a character who is) gets fired, the automatic knee-jerk reaction is to start coming up with cynical conspiracy theories about that being the reason they were let go. I can't help but think that if the show were that bias against their kind, the powers that be didn't have to go there with them at all. OLTL didn't have to spin Kyle and Oliver into gay characters in the first place, nor did they have to bother bringing back Rachel, and Layla has lasted an awfully long time for someone who is constantly being made out to be next on the chopping block.

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You can do better than that.

Hey, the entrance to the Sean Hannity Show on Fox News is that way.

Hoods & burning crucifixes courtesy of Paul Rauch.

What is the purpose of this thread?

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What is the purpose of this thread?

That we shouldn't make a big deal about OLTL firing blacks & gays. Because they also letting go of whites too.

But this person doesn't see that they still have a bunch of other whites & straights that are still on the show. So them firing a one or two whites really don't put a dent in the white casts. To make it noticeable .

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