Well once upon a time there was a woman named Sadie Gray and she had a daughter named Clara...

And if you want to talk about dropping core characters, look no further than the constant adoration and propping of Todd Manning... the preoccupation with the kissing of his ass has pushed Viki's own sons out of the picture. But I haven't seen ANY evidence of core characters being lost to minorities on this show anyway. Hell, they can't even write for the core characters half the time so no real loss regardless. But then to that I'd say, why can't Viki or Dorian have a biracial niece or nephew? What would Starr and Jack have looked like had Mia Korf stayed on as Blair? Would Starr and Jack have even existed? It should never even have to be an issue of placating the minority audience, if TPTB are doing their jobs, creating story that reflects our world and their audience, if they truly CARED enough, a fully integrated show would come so very easily and seem less like p.c. agenda driven bull. I just resent it when I'm made to feel like I'm asking for too much, you know?

If Mia Korf had stayed on as Blair, half of the current viewers wouldn't know the hell Blair was. And you could forget about Starr and Jack.

I remember Jared Hall, but I don't care about the Halls. The Cramers and Lords are where it's at.

There's so much bias in that statement, frankly, I don't know where to begin.

Rex's sister Natalie is a Buchanan.

But Rex isn't. He doesn't even interact with them outside of Bo.

To put it succinctly with respect to OLTL, I'd hate to see a legacy character like Starr get the boot in order to keep Layla on the show because they need a black character.

You have no worries because that will NEVER happen.

But Rex isn't. He doesn't even interact with them outside of Bo.

But he's Natalie's brother, which means he's part of that family technically.

Listen, I watched Passions and Jim Reilly did a great job of making it clear the Russell family was an integral part of the show from the very beginning. The Julian/Eve/TC triangle drove the show for several years. They even had the rare "black villainess" with Liz. Whitney and Chad's love story, plus the possibility of being Eve and Julian's love child, was a big deal and was milked for years. They even had the double minority with black lesbian Simone. All these characters were front burner throughout the show's run. And I haven't even mentioned the dynamic Valerie/Vincent character.

The Russells were "intergral"

Eve the druggie whore who settled for TC The Always Angry Scary Black Man but secretly pined for her rich, drunk, misogynistic White Pimp Julian?

Or Chad the mulatto street kid with a heart of gold in love the Tragic Lightskinned Upper Middle Class Overachieving Whitney but secretly loved by her dark skinned, "sassy" younger sister?

Or Liz the dark skinned jezebel who repeatedly attempted murder & lustily craved dick usually from White Men who didn't want her despite being a rape victim?

Or Aunt Irma the bigoted wheelchair bound Jesus loving homophobe?

Or Valerie/Vincent?

Reilly was as good at race as he was with sexuality.

Which is not good.

All the currently-airing soaps were created around white families.

Except for the soap we're talking about @ the moment. That one was created around a Polish family, an Irish family, a Black/African-American family, and a WASP family.

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The Russells were "intergral"

Eve the druggie whore who settled for TC The Always Angry Scary Black Man but secretly pined for her rich, drunk, misogynistic White Pimp Julian?

Or Chad the mulatto street kid with a heart of gold in love the Tragic Lightskinned Upper Middle Class Overachieving Whitney but secretly loved by her dark skinned, "sassy" younger sister?

Or Liz the dark skinned jezebel who repeatedly attempted murder & lustily craved dick usually from White Men who didn't want her despite being a rape victim?

Or Aunt Irma the bigoted wheelchair bound Jesus loving homophobe?

Or Valerie/Vincent?

Reilly was as good at race as he was with sexuality.

Which is not good.

Your statements prove you just plain didn't get the show, which means it's not even worth my time to explain it to you.

Except for the soap we're talking about @ the moment. That one was created around a Polish family, an Irish family, a Black/African-American family, and a WASP family.

Then blame the people who got rid of the Halls for the current state of affairs.

Well once upon a time there was a woman named Sadie Gray and she had a daughter named Clara...

And if you want to talk about dropping core characters, look no further than the constant adoration and propping of Todd Manning... the preoccupation with the kissing of his ass has pushed Viki's own sons out of the picture. But I haven't seen ANY evidence of core characters being lost to minorities on this show anyway. Hell, they can't even write for the core characters half the time so no real loss regardless. But then to that I'd say, why can't Viki or Dorian have a biracial niece or nephew? What would Starr and Jack have looked like had Mia Korf stayed on as Blair? Would Starr and Jack have even existed? It should never even have to be an issue of placating the minority audience, if TPTB are doing their jobs, creating story that reflects our world and their audience, if they truly CARED enough, a fully integrated show would come so very easily and seem less like p.c. agenda driven bull. I just resent it when I'm made to feel like I'm asking for too much, you know?

+1.

But he's Natalie's brother, which means he's part of that family technically.

I give up.

Point is, I think it's a double standard that you think blacks are being shoe-horned onto shows.

Were Jessie/Angie shoe-horned onto AMC?

Were Dru/Neil/Malcolm/Olivia shoe-horned onto Y&R?

Were the Speakes Family shoe-horned onto GL?

No.

And all of what you're saying is a moot point considering none of Y&R's current CORE families were around when the show began, so they were shoe-horned onto that shwo.

Nah, with that post, DeeeDee SO gets it.

Except for the soap we're talking about @ the moment. That one was created around a Polish family, an Irish family, a Black/African-American family, and a WASP family.

Are the Polish family you reference, the Siegels? If so, to add, they were Jewish as well. I wish Nora could have been a part of that family.

So you support creating a brand new black family that's lived in Llanview forever.

There are several that already do.

The Gannons, The Halls & The Vegas.

Rex's sister Natalie is a Buchanan.

REACHING.

But he's Natalie's brother, which means he's part of that family technically.

No, Rex is a Laurence. Mitch is his father; Roxy is his mother. Natalie is a Buchanan and a Lord, b/c Clint and Viki are her parents. See how that works?

Seriously, do you watch OLTL at all? Or just the parts where Farah Fath hurts America with her bad acting?

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Nah, with that post, DeeeDee SO gets it.

No she doesn't.

The Russells could very well have been a white family. JER wrote colour-blind stories and the Russell family would've worked either as a white family or a black family. And that is a good thing! They didn't get special minority treatment.