I can see he was probably different, but even early Kiberd is scary!

No that is not him. Kiberd is definitely a recast.

Sophie didn't die in a fire. Janet rigged something in the warehouse to kill Sophie, but it failed. Sophie brought a crowbar to kill Janet, but Janet got it away from her and ended up killing Sophie with it instead.

Trevor then showed up and took the blame because he didn't want Janet back in prison.

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by Pine Charles

Really? I was pretty sure Janet didn't really kill Sophie--who did Arlene catch then? LOL Anyway it was a lame story--I remember being surprised and shocked at how suddenly Kiberd left. But I thought Kiberd took the fall thinkign she'd dne it but she hadn't

(and yep that clip still shows him as tougher like he used to be--never seen the first actor. That clip is from DePriest's era I'm pretty sure...)

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by EricMontreal22

No that is not him. Kiberd is definitely a recast.

I know it's not the first Trevor (I've never seen him) but I think it's early Kiberd, so I think his earlier work was much rougher edged before the silly tie, Uncle Porkchop era. I wonder how viewers felt about that transition at the time.

Sophie didn't die in a fire. Janet rigged something in the warehouse to kill Sophie, but it failed. Sophie brought a crowbar to kill Janet, but Janet got it away from her and ended up killing Sophie with it instead.

Trevor then showed up and took the blame because he didn't want Janet back in prison.

Right -- I remembered the warehouse but I thought a fire was involved.

Janet didn't actually kill Sophie though. Some man did, and Janet and Trevor thought she did. Arlene cleared Trevor's name after he fled Pine Valley.

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by CarlD2

Well, with her first attempt (the candy cane) she didn't.

I remember those scenes.

It was around Christmas, and Janet went to the mall. Sophie was dressed as an elf (working with the Santa at the mall) ), and she confronted Janet behind the mall in an alleyway. Janet took a big candy cane from Sophie and bashed her with it (aren't those things usually made out of styrofoam or plastic? LOL)... anyway... Sophie ate pavement and JFAP thought she was dead so she threw her body in a dumpster. Janet hurries back home -- and the final scene of the episode is Sophie's hand rising really fast out from the dumpster!

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by Pine Charles

I don't remember the second that much, but I do remember the candy cane, as I thought that was one of the dumbest pieces of crap I had ever seen on TV, and I still do.

You're right! I was just checking Soapcentral. I thought Arlene wore the wire because the guy was the real killer. Apparently not:

Trevor kept in secret contact with Jackson Montgomery during his flight from justice. Trevor was eventually cleared off all wrong doing when Arlene got the eyewitness who'd fingered Trevor as the murderer to admit that he had a grudge against Trevor for busting him many years earlier. Trevor refused to return to Pine Valley and asked that Janet and Amanda join him and start anew in Colorado.

According to IMDb, the first Trevor back in '89 was actor David Jordan. No luck on a pic.

I don't remember the second that much, but I do remember the candy cane, as I thought that was one of the dumbest pieces of crap I had ever seen on TV, and I still do.

It was awful

But I was happy to see Mirror Janet again. LOL

Was that the first time Robin had had Mirror Janet?

I will take back my giant candy cane complaints if Ryan gets beaten to death with one or something.

Was that the first time Robin had had Mirror Janet?

Nope. Mirror Janet with RM started right away -- when she was 'Jane Cox'

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by Pine Charles

According to IMDb, the first Trevor back in '89 was actor David Jordan. No luck on a pic.

I went on Youtube to try to find some other Marisa episodes and then I got a million Mabe videos. She ruins everything.

Nope. Mirror Janet with RM started right away -- when she was 'Jane Cox'

Thanks. I didn't see early Robin (just the plastic surgery episode). For some reason I thought that was mostly Kate with the mirror.

Janet was in prison for a while between actresses, remember (and we had new, and awfully bland, Natalie--Melody Anderson or whoever) so it wasn't a quick transition--wasn't Robin's first ep the Twilight Zone hommage plastic surgery episode (Chris Goutman directed it like his fave ep of Twlight)? I don't remember Janet really talking to the mirror before RM played her--I guess maybe she did (I can remember a hand mirror when she was in hospital with Amanda during the Will storyline) but itwasn't as played up, anyway.

I don't remember the second that much, but I do remember the candy cane, as I thought that was one of the dumbest pieces of crap I had ever seen on TV, and I still do.

You're right! I was just checking Soapcentral. I thought Arlene wore the wire because the guy was the real killer. Apparently not:

I made a habit of saving my Xmas AMC eps and recently saw some of the candy cane stuff--very festive (You can see some more of the storyline in the 30th anniversary ep a week or so later, on Agnesnixon.com)

But wait, so Janet actually DID kill Sophie? And that's why she took off? I have to admit, as much as I wasn't into McTavish bringing her back and the whole "she killed Trevor" thing, etc, I forgot a lot of how she had left, I guess to McTavish's (very partial) credit she was playing with hints we were getting when she left.

I can't wait for the third part. In which I know he won't trash McTavish.

Edited March 2, 201015 yr by Sylph

I get the feeling he said what he had to say about McT and is over it--I do hope the third part gives us more actual specifics about his fave storylines, etc.