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Linda Gottlieb article 1992

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I know this woman elicits strong feelings among some posters here.

Here's an article from 92.I think Connie Passalacqua(Marlena DeLaCroix was the writer)

When the daytime soap world gathers at the Sheraton New York Hotel tonight for the 19th annual Daytime Emmy Awards, the main schmooze for once won't be Susan Lucci's 12-time failure to win the best actress statuette. The buzz instead will be about the ABC soap opera "One Life to Live, " whose new producer, Linda Gottlieb, has been making a controversial attempt to revolutionize the stagnant daytime soap opera form.

Gottlieb, who produced the hit film "Dirty Dancing, " had no prior daytime soap experience when she took the job last July. In the insular world of daytime television, which traditionally promotes and hires from within, her name may as well be Fletcher Christian.

' "One Life to Live' is the anti-soap, " says Robert Rorke, senior editor of Soap Opera Digest. "Like a soap opera antihero, you never know what it's going to do next. "

Soap audiences used to perfect-looking actors and actresses have tuned into such scenes as one in which a bald man (Paul Bartel) defended a psychotic woman for murder; the key clue to that murder may have been provided by an even balder man (Wallace Shawn). In a world where it's de rigueur for soap hunks to be monosyllabic, "One Life to Live " characters quote Shakespeare and recite the poetry of Burns, Donne, Rossetti and Shelley. In a genre that spins on endless romances, fantasy and froth, one recent "OLTL " storyline hinged on a scene straight out of "The Snake Pit " -- one character's visit to the sanitarium where her sister grew up.

"I had hoped by the end of my stint that I would be able to do for the world of daytime what Steven Bochco did for nighttime TV, " says Gottlieb, referring to the writer-producer whose "Hill Street Blues " revolutionized the hour police drama. "He took a form that was mired in its own preconceptions and brought it into the modern world. He showed things that were rough and uneven, and that characters aren't gorgeous all the time. And that's what makes his shows seem alive. Look, I've hired a guy with a scar on his face (Mark Brettschneider, who plays teen rebel Jason Webb). "

That's just one of her changes. Gottlieb, who admits she had never watched a daytime soap before agreeing to take the helm of "One Life to Live, " says, "It's rare to have a chance to come in to something that you don't know anything about. Either it means you are going to fall on your face or you're free to rethink it. "

Soaps had never kept up with new technology, says Gottlieb, who has introduced film-like post-production techniques, including computerized music editing. Gottlieb envisions making music as intrinsic to the success of "One Life to Live " as it was to "Dirty Dancing. " She has already hired personal friends Judy Collins (to sing a love theme) and off-Broadway composer Elizabeth Swados (to score a location sequence). And she has also used such cult actors as Bartel ( "Eating Raoul ") and Shawn ( "My Dinner With Andre ") in guest roles.

"Why not get the best people working for this medium? We're reaching a ton of people. It's as if soaps in the past have been self-conscious adolescents saying, 'We're gawky; we'd better not go after the good-looking guys,' " she says in an interview in her office at "OLTL's " West Side studio.

Gottlieb's most valuable, if not radical, hire has been head writer Michael Malone, a former University of Pennsylvania professor and well-reviewed author of such complex novels as "Time's Witness " and the recent "Foolscap. " Most head writers are veterans who hop from show to show, but Malone, like Gottlieb, had no soap experience.

Not everyone is sold on her approach. "There are tried-and-true rules that make a soap work, " says Freeman Gunter, a managing editor of Soap Opera Weekly. "Gottlieb wants to reinvent the wheel, but the wheel's already been here for 40 years. Some think it's working just fine. "

Indeed, in Gottlieb's rush to innovate, she has cast aside the three crucial soap opera elements that have kept audiences addicted since the dawn of TV:

* Continuity: In an admirable attempt to pick up the slow pace of soaps, "One Life to Live " has done several short-term, close-ended storylines -- on such subjects as wife-beating and prejudice -- reminiscent to the arcs used on the prime-time drama "Wiseguy. " But these stories simply ended, leaving viewers free to zap to other soaps. "In soaps, continuity is the most important element in building ratings and audiences, " says Douglas Marland, head writer of CBS' "As the World Turns. "

* Familiarity: "What makes a soap work for people is the familiarity they feel with characters -- the predictability, " Gunter says. "They're shocked when they tune in and see a character acting like they're on a medication which doesn't agree with them. " Under Gottlieb, the heroic Viki Buchanan (played by Erika Slezak), the show's central focus for 23 years, was suddenly pushed to the back burner and was transformed from a kindly, liberal figure into a meddling mother-in-law.

* Likability: Soap audiences tune in every day to see characters they love or love to hate, no matter how stereotypical they seem. In an attempt to build more complex, lifelike characters, Malone's creations are many shades of gray.

In her defense, Gottlieb says she's not producing the show for the soap audience, but more from her own tastes and instincts.

As with any insurgent, there has been resistance toward Gottlieb in the soap industry. "She's perceived as arrogant for saying she can reinvent something that everyone else has been doing for so long, " Gunter says.

Others, however, feel that soap operas, whose formats haven't changed much in 40 years, desperately need a kick. "Soaps have never responded to the new competition presented by cable and video, " says Soap Opera Digest's Rorke. "Soap audiences also now include substantial percentages of men and college students as well as the traditional audience of homemakers. If Gottlieb is being dynamic and shaking things up, then good for her. "

And there is evidence that Gottlieb's gambles may be paying off, even if the soap was not nominated this year for an Emmy as best daytime serial. "One Life to Live " (seen weekdays at 1 p.m. on ABC, Channels 7, 3, 10 and 42) ranked 10th (out of 11) in the ratings when Gottlieb arrived last year and is now fifth. Still, that's not as high as it reached through most of the '80s, when it placed third or fourth.

Gottlieb says she's aware of the negative industry talk about her attempts. She shrugs: "You've just got to keep pushing the envelope. The great thing about soaps is if you fail one day, you can pick yourself up and try something else the next. "

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Was it under Gottlieb that OLTL had the Valentine's episode with just music and no dialogue?

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I'd thought the Corringtons' reign was winding down by the time Samantha was killed in the hot tub.

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I'd thought the Corringtons' reign was winding down by the time Samantha was killed in the hot tub.

I just took the quote out of my head, I haven't read the book in a while, so you're probably right.

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Good Lord, I didn't realize how tall David Beecroft is until I saw him again in that OLTL clip upthread.

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Watching those great 1978 clips--the hostage situation first, who is Richard? I can gather he's an ambitious yougn guy working for the Banner and wants to getmarried to some girl called Becky whose husband won't let her... anything else?

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Richard Abbott. He was Victor Lord's nephew (Victor's sister was Gwendolyn). He eventually married Becky Lee, they divorce by 1981. Did he do country singing with her? I can't remember.

I think Tina might have been involved with him at one time, years before they made her a Lord. Or was she not?

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Too funny, I remember that scene very very clearly. It was under Griffith (pre Malone)

Wasn't Seth's exit with ET's Jessica? Anything that occurred with Erin Torpey still there was Broderick, pre-Griffith. (I leave out Whitesell, because the scene sounds too sophisticated to be any part of him...)

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Richard last appeared in 1986 when Tina pined for Cord, but was reluctant to marry him because he didn't have money. She got engaged to Richard. When she found out Cord was Clint's son (before Cord did), she dumped Richard and accepted Cord's proposal.

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Richard Abbott. He was Victor Lord's nephew (Victor's sister was Gwendolyn). He eventually married Becky Lee, they divorce by 1981. Did he do country singing with her? I can't remember.

I think Tina might have been involved with him at one time, years before they made her a Lord. Or was she not?

It was after she found out she was a Lord that she hooked up with Richard (who was then played by Jeffrey Byron). She thought marrying Richard would give her the social status she lacked. She fell hard for Cord, who she initially had no idea was connected to the Buchanans, while she was engaged to Richard. When she discovered the truth about Cord, she dumped Rich so hard that he instantly bounced over to Pine Valley and renamed himself Jeff Martin.

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Thanks for the fuller description.

I never knew he played Jeff on AMC. I thought that character was just gone for most of the 80s and 90s.

I really liked him on PC.

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I don't know if Becky Lee lingered into Rauch or not. I think she was on the borderline. I thought he did some with Delilah (she stole Gabrielle's designs, for one thing) but Shelly Burch left at least once, the first time in a mysterious disappearance a la Laura on the docks; I think she was later rescued, held captive by Patrick London along with Bo and Didi.

Becky Lee was definitely there, for I think not quite a year under Rauch. As a matter of fact, he thought enough of her to give her what I call the "Alexis" spot (final billing) on the original Faces of Llanview opening credits - which of course went to Dorian after Mary Gordon Murray left the show.

I loved Shelley Burch as Delilah. There was just something very special about her.

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Thanks for the fuller description.

I never knew he played Jeff on AMC. I thought that character was just gone for most of the 80s and 90s.

I really liked him on PC.

Our responses to the question were simultaneous, Carl! ;)

Byron lasted on AMC for about six months, having a flirtation with Brooke. He left, and the role was briefly recast with someone forgettable. Being that Byron spent a year with ABC, I half-suspected this was done to accomodate a year-long contract guarantee; that he was moved over to AMC because he no longer fit into OLTL's longterm scheme. But that's just what I surmise.

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Wasn't Seth's exit with ET's Jessica? Anything that occurred with Erin Torpey still there was Broderick, pre-Griffith. (I leave out Whitesell, because the scene sounds too sophisticated to be any part of him...)

I came back as a daily viewer with the Strom of Change--and I thought this happened right at the very start.. I was pretty sure it was Griffith.

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I'd kill to see some of those Marsha Clark Tina episodes.  Along with Ken Kenitzer's Kevin and Claire Malis' Dorian, they seem extremely rare (even though ABC has them all archived in their library, but just has no reason to ever show them.)  Unfortuately, because of her name, every time you try to do any kind of a search on her you get Marcia Clark results.  She did an interview not too long ago stating that while on she was on vacation in New York, OLTL was frantic to replace Kelli Maroney as Tina, and so they called and basically browbeat her into taking over the role.  

I've never been able to find any Marsha as Tina clips, but I did find a couple of Kelly Maroney clips. Wow. For me, she just seemed so UN-Tina - as if Maroney is able to play only Ryan's Hope's Kimberly. In the clips, it appears she was working for Asa as a new assistant - and had her sights set on Bo (while he was paired with Didi). No, definitely, this Tina could not have become Tina Lord.

Now I know that Krista Tesreau was not the worst of the Tina's. :lol:

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