Kevin was so yummy! He would have been the perfect top for Luke. Poor blind Noah can't tell Luke's belly button from is ...

The thing was we knew Luke had a big crush on him and knew why. We saw their budding friendship and then Luke started feeling something for him. When Noah was introduced it was bang....lets kiss....and hit the sheets....and we had no clue who Noah was and why Luke liked him. I stil remember the scene where Luke came out to Kevin at Raven Lake. All of Nuke doesnt compare to that one scene of Kevin and Luke.

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Bingo!! ATWT blew it when they didn't pair Luke and Kevin. They oozed chemistry. Instead we got Jake dull as paint Silberman.....ugh..and yes it went downhill and so did Van's acting.

Hell, Luke and Casey have more damn chemistry than Luke and Noah. No really, Van and Billy have a very natural dynamic when they share scenes together...

somewhere on this forum in one of these threads there is a quote by Agnes Nixon about why she did not want P&G to be where she created AMC and OLTL, about how P&G had too many restrictions regarding race and minority characters on their soaps. I would hate to see OLTL cave in to the narrow thinking of bigoted viewers. It's a pity but this is probably what will happen. The fact that OLTL had probably lost a trillion viewers since ComaCop McBain took over the show is never factored into these decisions, or Todd and Blair, or Fara Fath and whoever plays Brody...it is always the marginal characters just passing through who just have to be the scapegoats while the status quo gets preserved.

I'm gay, think the gay stories on OLTL are great. I just think that a show in such danger of being replaced should play it safe. One Life has little room for error.

Hell, Luke and Casey have more damn chemistry than Luke and Noah. No really, Van and Billy have a very natural dynamic when they share scenes together...

Yes they do. I loved their flirting they did. Casey was so uncomfortable when Luke presented him as his bf...lol. They would have made a hot couple. It would have been a good twist had they made Casey bi..another disappointment in Margo's eyes.

Yes they do. I loved their flirting they did. Casey was so uncomfortable when Luke presented him as his bf...lol. They would have made a hot couple. It would have been a good twist had they made Casey bi..another disappointment in Margo's eyes.

I think Margo should come out as bi. She is way butch and was always a little too friendly with Jessica if you ask me.

I'm gay, think the gay stories on OLTL are great. I just think that a show in such danger of being replaced should play it safe. One Life has little room for error.

Playing it safe didn't do anything to keep other soaps on the air.

Bingo!! ATWT blew it when they didn't pair Luke and Kevin. They oozed chemistry. Instead we got Jake dull as paint Silberman.....ugh..and yes it went downhill and so did Van's acting.

They wouldn't have been able to show anything between Luke and Kevin, as they didn't between Nuke, so it probably would have been the same, long term. And that would have been another story where being virulently homophobic = being gay, which has been done so many times, and sends a bad message.

I think they should have just written all gay characters out a year or two ago if they weren't going to be able to properly write for them.

I think Margo should come out as bi. She is way butch and was always a little too friendly with Jessica if you ask me.

Oh dear no....not that...lol

Serisously, ATWT should have gone with a Luke and Kevin pairing or a Luke and Casey pairing. It's a mute point now since ATWT is a goner. Goutman was too pigheaded to listen to fans and I doubt he would kill of Noah and have Luke Paired with Kevin or Casey. It be nice to have Kevin admit to Luke he was gay all along and he crushed him. Sigh...will never happen.

Playing it safe didn't do anything to keep other soaps on the air.

The problem is that they didn't play it safe. They toyed with new production methods; over-focused on super couples; fired vets; put all the focus on the teen set. Days proves that playing it safe by telling good story and returning to a more traditional soap model works wonders.

The problem is that they didn't play it safe. They toyed with new production methods; over-focused on super couples; fired vets; put all the focus on the teen set. Days proves that playing it safe by telling good story and returning to a more traditional soap model works wonders.

Yes, but DAYS also fired some vets, and focused on new teen characters.

Sometimes you have to take some chances. I don't know if OLTL did anything that shocking with their gay characters to say they somehow have caused a ratings loss. I would say the Tarty aftermath and all the repulsive Todd/Tea and Rex/Gigi/Stacy stories drove ratings down more. The only part of the Kish story which might have caused viewers to tune out was the wedding stuff, which I think was a bit too much and also rushed.

Oh dear no....not that...lol

Serisously, ATWT should have gone with a Luke and Kevin pairing or a Luke and Casey pairing. It's a mute point now since ATWT is a goner. Goutman was too pigheaded to listen to fans and I doubt he would kill of Noah and have Luke Paired with Kevin or Casey. It be nice to have Kevin admit to Luke he was gay all along and he crushed him. Sigh...will never happen.

If P&G would just sell the soap to a network then maybe you'd get to see it.

The problem is that they didn't play it safe. They toyed with new production methods; over-focused on super couples; fired vets; put all the focus on the teen set. Days proves that playing it safe by telling good story and returning to a more traditional soap model works wonders.

Let's not kid ourselves here though, if DAYS had the budget to do all those other things, they would be doing them. The budget cuts of 2008 and Hall and Hogestyn's firings shuck that show to its core and made them refocus it, not because they wanted to refocus the show.

The other soaps have their crappy budgets and are trying to pass it off as something more than it actually is, and it never works. They all need a "shock" that will shake them to their core too. Who know if or when that will happen.

They wouldn't have been able to show anything between Luke and Kevin, as they didn't between Nuke, so it probably would have been the same, long term. And that would have been another story where being virulently homophobic = being gay, which has been done so many times, and sends a bad message.

I think they should have just written all gay characters out a year or two ago if they weren't going to be able to properly write for them.

At least they would have been more entertaining to watch and Van's acting wouldnt have gone to hell. I think Van worked much better with Karl than dull as dirt Jake.

If P&G would just sell the soap to a network then maybe you'd get to see it.

It aint going to happen. We need to face facts. ATWT last show is in September. If Goutman gave two shits about this show it wouldnt have been cancelled in September.

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Yes, and watch Goutman be recycled to some other poor soap, which would really be a shame....

He needs to stick to directing, and never produce another soap again.

Yes, and watch Goutman be recycled to some other poor soap, which would really be a shame....

He needs to stick to directing, and never produce another soap again.

Well with the soaps dropping like flies there wont be any left for him to ruin....lol

Seriously, when Goutman didn't show up for Martha's goodbye party that's all I need to know.

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