Members DRW50 Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 "Rallying the troops" wasn't going to work. Falling ratings and constant complaints from viewers did nothing to cause a regime change -- the people at P&G and CBS did not care about the show and obviously wanted it to die. Trying to stop the cancellation is just a way of saying goodbye for some fans. I never understand why fans trying to stop cancelation is seen as wrong. If they want to make the effort, even though it's not going to work, I can't blame them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 I wish Soapnet would buy GL and ATWT and start showing it from the 70's forward. I know it won't happen, since even Soapnet doesn't seem to want to be in the soap business. Maybe it's more likely to hope these shows will be uploaded to the net and we'll be able to buy subscriptions to watch them or maybe just simple pay per view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members JaneAusten Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 Lifetime is one of the 5 most successful cable stations along with USA and TNT. BUT like those stations they have their own original programming which is seasonal and once a week. Why would they pick up a 5 day a week soap when they probably get far better ratings from showing reruns of Frasier, The Golden Girls, and Will and Grace 5 days a week. I'd venture to guess that these shows have more mainsteam appeal even in syndication. But I don't blame fans for trying. Personally I'd prefer they put reruns of these soaps on the internet and charge a small subscription fee for them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members P.J. Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 Y'know, I don't get the digs at fans doing something either. Whether or not you think it's futile, at least it shows a commitment to the show...which even I had doubted from that group. Should ATWT survive, how it survives is a whole 'nother matter. The days of serialized, five day-a-week drama is ending. That's really the "genre" everyone's talking about. There will always be some kind of serialized drama on tv...police dramas are no longer the dry procedurals like the orginal Dragnet or Hawaii Five-O. So yeah---I could see Lifetime ordering thirteen episodes of ATWT, and testing the waters. It can't be any worse than "Drop Dead Diva". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 I wonder if we will eventually get some version of this type of soap format. Not necessarily with ATWT, but a reborn version of the soap format years from now. Even occasional limited run reunion specials for the soaps that have died would be nice, but it's never happened before so I have a hard time hoping it will happen for ATWT. I agree that there is no harm in people campaigning to get the show back though. As someone else said, I think it's part of the grieving process for some people. At least they know they did everything they could to try to save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members marceline Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 I love how some fans see Lifetime as the dumping ground for dead soaps. As if the programming execs are all just sitting in a conference room staring blankly out the window wondering how to do their jobs. If Lifetime wanted to be in the soap business, they'd develop their own not take on the arthritic castoffs of network TV. Welcome to the bargaining phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 Many say it will be something like those telenovelas on MyNetworkTV, only running 3, 7, 10 years and then ending. I don't know if I'm convinced. People around SON, for example, didn't even take a look at those, let alone anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 Oh, soaps'll be back in some form or another. They're still with us in a myriad of forms, they're just not all on daytime between the hours of 10-4. Grey's Anatomy, CSI, ER, Law & Order, Heroes, Lost - oh, sure, they're all "serious drama." More like "none dare call it treason." Even the great British science-fiction institution, Doctor Who, has become a soap; across the pond, however, the Brits have been wise enough to embrace that aspect of the renewed program, which has only been reinvigorated for another fifty-some years. It may be day, it may be night, it may be cloaked as procedural or medical drama, it may be web, it may be network, it may be cable, it may be sixty minutes, thirty, fifteen, ten, it may be five days a week, or four or three like the Brits, but soap opera will always be with us, even when people are ashamed to call it that. And eventually they'll break through the shame and they'll spring forth as just soap opera once more, in at least one outlet or apparatus of some sort. It may not be in our time, it may not leave any of the current soaps alive, but it'll all swing back around. And yes, I'd be willing to wager that at least some of the current or defunct network soap properties will someday, perhaps twenty or thirty years from now, be revived in some form, with new casts and new ideas, much like the Spelling soaps have been. Brand name will always be something to be utilized. I'm not worried. People who come on Soap Opera Network to scowl at people who still like to watch soap operas are not only deluded about themselves, but they're deluded about the continuum of popular culture. And fiercely naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 Seems more like denial to me since Lifetime has flat out said they don't want to be in the soap business. The news is still fresh it takes time for people to accept that an old friend is gone for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 http://www.fancast.com/blogs/deep-soap/deep-soap-as-the-world-turns-off-its-axis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 I wonder. Those that think soaps will be back and then site the primetime shows that use serialized stories to an extent and an example of why. Well they already are survining in a way and continuing in those forms. I watch Army Wives on Lifetime and for all intensive purposes that's soap opera too. And if soaps goto a one day a week broadcast or have limited runs, how is that different from a primetime show like Lost or ER or any of the rest. There is nothing new or innovative about that. I personally think the web broadcast, the soap running in 10 minutes and can be viewed on an iPhone or someday a more sophisticated handheld device so people can watch on the go is the future. And they'll be shown on the web versus on television. Now that's just an opinion. But I also think that's the future of much of television too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaneAusten Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 I believe she is wrong about Soapnet. I believe since Soapnet changed direction a bit and started airing "other things" their viewership has risen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 I thought so too, but then again she seems to have insight into more detailed Nielsen reports. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bellcurve Posted December 13, 2009 Members Share Posted December 13, 2009 Who asked for her opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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