But people like her tend to talk a good game and put their noses in the air and can't even back it up with the talent that they claim to possess.

She's got EllenWheeleritis.

Would you expect any less?

Dear heavens! It's like we're all on some kind of maniacal, crazy swing somewhere, in some asylum! It's completely crazy here! One week people admit that Maria Arena knows sh!t about fashion, art and writing, the next - it's the same old lame story from her beginnings on Y&R where she is proclaimed as the next Messiah.

It is overbearing to the point of being hysterical and maddening at the same time.

Exactly!

The bottom line is that she is inexperienced and on-top of that, she's in way over her head and believes her own hype.

But even that doesn't mean anything to Maria. She will still feature the same ten characters in the same damn stories. This Lauren/Michael/Phyllis crap will be no different.

Maria was doing her usual lying to fans and the press to keep them from revolting later rather than sooner, in an effort to hopefully make them forget. But not only is she completely clueless about what Y&R needs, but she's also completely inept when it comes to dealing with fans of soaps, who never forget these promises that were made.

Maria doesn't strike me as the kind of person who will just let someone steamroll over her and not pitch a fit about it. If she lost complete, creative control over Y&R, you bet your sweet ass she'd be crying to Nelson, saying that Bloom and Steve Kent have it out for her and for the Bell "vision." This lady may *think* she has class and is a professional, but she is quite the opposite.

That attitude was cute and funny when we thought she would do good things for Y&R. But people like her tend to talk a good game and put their noses in the air and can't even back it up with the talent that they claim to possess.

Maria strikes me as someone who has led a completely blasé life for the past... Twenty years. Where everything was light and feathery and flute-y, served on a silver platter, with gigantic mansions spread all over US and beyond, each with a pool with the size of an ocean, private jets, chauffeured limousines, haute couture and what not. Like someone who is bloody rigid bored with everything and hasn't found herself yet.

But you are so right. If she lost the control, you bet we would find it out from her mouth on five different sources.

Edited November 2, 200916 yr by Sylph

Dear heavens! It's like we're all on some kind of maniacal, crazy swing somewhere, in some asylum! It's completely crazy here! One week people admit that Maria Arena knows sh!t about fashion, art and writing, the next - it's the same old lame story from her beginnings on Y&R where she is proclaimed as the next Messiah.

It is overbearing to the point of being hysterical and maddening at the same time.

I'll be the first to admit that I thought Maria needed time. Defending her through alot of her initial missteps(including those painfully stagnant first six months), but the reality is that(as I said earlier) she got way in over her head or just really gave up, assuming that Y&R would stay at #1 while she kept her producer/writer credit and went on vacation.

Maria strikes me as someone who has led a completely blasé life for the past... Twenty years. Where everything was light and feathery and flute-y, served on a silver platter, with gigantic mansions spread all over US and beyond, each with a pool with the size of an ocean, private jets, chauffeured limousines, haute couture and what not. Like someone who is bloody rigid bored with everything and hasn't found herself yet.

But you are so right. If she lost the control, you bet we would find it out from her mouth on five different sources.

I got the "classy but not" comparison from her story she told the press about how Sally Spectra was loosely based on her father. I mean, Spectra was great, but far from class.

I want her to have a midlife crisis, discover that she loves paper airplanes and leave Y&R to make them on a regular basis.

Edited November 2, 200916 yr by bellcurve

Yep.

Let her ask Guza how well that works.

She's got EllenWheeleritis.

So I guess this is what would happen if GL had an inflated budget under the Wheeler years?

So I guess this is what would happen if GL had an inflated budget under the Wheeler years?

Pretty much.

It's only a matter of time before Noah becomes a serial killer, Jill starts drugging Jack & Estella's mob relatives show up.

Edited November 2, 200916 yr by DeeeDee

Pretty much.

It's only a matter of time before Noah becomes a serial killer, Jill starts drugging Jack & Estella's mob relatives show up.

The only one I can see in the age group they want to feature is Noah, so it will be Chloe starts drugging Billy and they introduce Jana's mob relatives.

I wish I could say I'd be surprised at this, but I can't.

Due to some personal reasons, I was unable to view the past three Y&R episodes, and I don't think I will. I certainly don't have the incentive to keep up with this pile of steaming sh!t. I'll still watch until it ends, but this show is making it easier day by day to become numb to the stupidity and mismanagement that plagues it.

Whatever Y&R (and those who run the show), keep up with your arrogance and denial, the show will end soon anyway and all you hacks who just do it for a paycheck will be where you belong - unemployed.

they introduce Jana's mob relatives.

they introduce Jana's mob relatives.

I could just see it, Aidan Turner and James Scott IN at Y&R!

Edited November 2, 200916 yr by Amello

I could just see it, Aidan Turner and James Scott IN at Y&R!

Oh dear God, continue the ABC invasion!

Oh dear God, continue the ABC invasion!

They might as well, Y&R is already a bad parody of a bad ABC soap.

Goodness, please don't let Hogan get near a James Scott character again.

Aidan Turner, I wouldn't mind...if he didn't wear clothes.

Y&RWT, I'm glad you're doing OK, I wasn't sure since it had been a few days.

I think she doesn't know how to write a good storyline. The storyline with Sharon getting pregnant could of been so much better had she played the drama and twists by making the baby Billy's but Mary Jane thinks that it's Jack's because she read the DNA wrong so she switches the test to show the baby is Nick's. It would of caught the audience off guard and drama with in the Abbot family had Jack not known that Sharon had slept with Billy. Making the kid Nick's was some of the laziest writing especially since we had MJ who was nutty as a fruit cake doing stuff to Summer & Phyllis.

The next storyline she could of done something with is after all this crap came out about what Victor had done with MJ is have everyone turn against him and have it be a "Who shot Victor" storyline with MJ being the culprit. It would of given weeks of excitement on the show, They could of even done flashbacks of having everyone have heated conversations before the shooting.

And last the Adam/Sharon/Ashley storyline why not have Ashely have a baby that died upon delivery and have Adam make the switch with Sharon's baby then. It would be more believable as to why Ashley went into labor and why she continued to think she was pregnant.

I could go on and on because none of her storylines have had me going "Wow" in fact I sometimes feel like 9 year old could figure out the ending of the storylines if I just got him to sit there and watch the show. lol!! I really miss the days of intelligent writing on the show and those rushing home moments to see what I missed.

That baby's always gonna be Nick, it wasn't gonna be written any other way. Fanbases are at play and it chumps art (well at least in this case). But that does sound good

Six pages of doom and gloom and conspiracy theories over something that probably won't even happen. *Sigh*

This board is more depressing than the show will ever be.

Six pages of doom and gloom and conspiracy theories over something that probably won't even happen. *Sigh*

This board is more depressing than the show will ever be.

It was six pages of gloom and doom that you didn't have to read.