3 hours ago, InLoveWithSoaps said:

They actually lightly SORASed them for Ross's funeral in 2006 and who else but Mick Hazen (ATWT) and Eric Nelsen (AJ on AMC 2.0) to play them. They had no lines whatsoever. Clarissa stuck around until the end I believe but they didn't do anything with her. I know it's unpopular but I'd have said Kevin (I believe) was Rick's after all so that would have given him a kid legitimately old enough to be a teen. (2 year old Leah suddenly being one, ugh!)
I'll always be mad they didn't do a Blake/Alan-Michael redux after Ross's death. That was one of the best outcomes possible, although I know many wanted him with Dinah which could have worked too. Firing the last A-M who must have been as cheap as a Mandy Bruno was one of the pre-Peapack signs of how increasingly out of touch they were becoming. I'll never understand why they did that. You can't tell me it was because it was a failed recast given there was a lot more uproar about a certain recast around at the time, but they ignored it, and people didn't seem to dislike him too much, it was the stories they gave him first with Marina then with Ava that people didn't care for.
Re: Nadine, I'd have kept her over Buzz anyday. She was iconic! Not too fussed about Jenna's second run, she was isolated from everything that made her stand out in the first place. Her death scenes were cringe-worthy too thanks to Buzz.

 

I liked the episode where Jenna went to visit vanessa, alex, Holly, Harley and finally Buzz.  It was a great good bye episode.

 

I did love in that episode where India said she wished she'd known Jenna better...with Alex saying they'd have a lot to talk about... 

 

And I do agree once Jenna married Buzz...she lost what made her unique and memorable.  She was the 90s version of India/Helena...yet was her own person so she wasn't a carbon copy.

 

 

 

I miss WSPR! I miss Maureen, Vanessa, Gilly, & Holly! I miss this damn show!

 

3 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

I miss WSPR! I miss Maureen, Vanessa, Gilly, & Holly! I miss this damn show!

 

 

We will never have another breakfast in the Bauer kitchen, or another Christmas in Bert's living room, alas.

On 4/21/2017 at 7:44 PM, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

 

I totally agree with all of this. Buzz was a vortex of suck and anyone paired with him didn't bode well in the end. 

 

It didn't make sense to me why Jenna didn't get help from the Chamberlains (mostly Vanessa) when it came to Jeffery. Seeing as Vanessa had not too long ago fought off Roger from getting Peter, she could've easily helped Jenna do the same. Or she could've helped Jenna go into hiding again until it was safe for her to return. I just think that killing Jenna off was pure stupidity. At times, I wish that they would've killed Buzz's ass off in that car crash. 

 

Poor Fiona Hutchinson. She did not have the best of luck when it came to her characters. 

 

I will never figure out who Deas was balling to keep that job! God (and this is sick stuff I know) I would love to have had Buzz die in that car crash and give him a chance to do his usual over acting in his death scenes at the hospital...sputtering, arms waving, spitting, snot flying out of his nose..and have Rick or Ed say...."The patient would pull through if he would just stay still, but he wont..." and then in the middle of a massive arms flaying like windmills attack, he bites it, with his big maw wide open so he can kick it like he lived it.

 

Actually I would have had Buzz get killed by Brent instead of Nadine...how I would love Brent to say that infamous line to him instead..."How bout some diner food Buzz??" as he throws his body in the dumpster...

 

But yea, Rauchie and MADD got rid of her because of her sticking up for Zaz, but also, she was a bit of a diva herself, complaining if she didn't have a storyline...."There is only so much you can do in the background of the Bauer BBQ blowing up balloons." so I guess Rauch already had his hands full with Zimmer.

On 4/23/2017 at 0:30 AM, dc11786 said:

 

The Marlers definitely had untapped potential, but the Marler children were still young and Holly and Blake were both off contract for a good part of the final years. If they could have gotten to a point with the Marler kids as teens in stories and they used Holly and Blake in more functional roles, I'd agree. Prior to Phillip's death, I felt the Spauldings were in fairly good shape up until the early days of Wheeler and Kriezman. The loss of Phillip really hurt the Spaulding family. Neither Gus nor Alan-Michael seemed to be able to fill the hole that Phillip left, IMO.

 

Jenna had caught Holly in the act doing one of her Nursery Rhyme Stalker crimes. At some point, Jeffrey shows up. Jenna pleads with Holly; she (Jenna) says she doesn't care what Holly has done, but she needs Holly to stay with her. Jeffrey throws Holly out and then kidnaps Jenna. I don't recall Holly telling anyone about Jeffrey and Jenna. It seemed in bad taste to have Holly allow Jenna to go off with Jeffrey when she saw how scared Jenna was of the man.

 

 

But there it is, why was Blake (and Ross) off contract but they would keep Frank and Buzz? Switch that off and have your longest running vet and his wife head up a new young family.  I think Holly, at this point worked best on recurring, coming in and out of stories as needed. Just say she is a globe hopping journalist writing a book (and maybe looking for Roger) and she comes into the story when needed. 

 

Don't remind me of Gus.  Why they didn't fix that paternity problem I will never know..that manscara wearing twit was in no way a Spaulding...I loved when he died everyone was like..."Oh...hey what's for lunch???" 

 

The mental unraveling of Phillip and his  "death"  could have been a great story (and gotten GA an emmy)  if it wasnt written so crappy. It touched everyone on the canvas and could have realigned and fixed a lot of things..(i.e during the trial Gus "real" paternity came out, the "real" reason Alex was involved in the drug ring..brought Beth back to being herself,..etc.)  and they revealed he was alive in the summer...with GA back in the role.

On 4/27/2017 at 11:33 AM, Mitch said:

But there it is, why was Blake (and Ross) off contract but they would keep Frank and Buzz? Switch that off and have your longest running vet and his wife head up a new young family. 

 

The weird part of that is that generally the push at that time was ditch the vets and put young cheap hot people on contract instead. But Frank and Buzz?? lol Not young or hot, I have no idea about cheap but JD probably wasn't and FD had been around for a long time at that point so he couldn't have been cheaper than a newbie. Anyway, I'm sad we never saw teenage Jason/Kevin/Clarissa. Mostly because I think watching Blake get a bit of a comeuppance dealing with a teenage daughter would be hilarious. I'd imagine the nice calm Ross genetics wouldn't override the Roger/Holly/Blake crazy ones.

 

Unrelated question, watching some old episodes and Dylan and Sam are babysitting Susan/Daisy. Mrs. Lemay is enormously pregnant. I was watching when Brittany Snow's Susan came back but I don't remember her having an adoptive brother or sister. Did they ever say what happened to the baby Mrs. Lemay was pregnant with then?? I remember her being dead when Susan arrived, then Jim arriving a while later but not with another child in tow.

Edited April 29, 20178 yr by GH_Girl

29 minutes ago, GH_Girl said:

 

The weird part of that is that generally the push at that time was ditch the vets and put young cheap hot people on contract instead. But Frank and Buzz?? lol Not young or hot, I have no idea about cheap but JD probably wasn't and FD had been around for a long time at that point so he couldn't have been cheaper than a newbie. Anyway, I'm sad we never saw teenage Jason/Kevin/Clarissa. Mostly because I think watching Blake get a bit of a comeuppance dealing with a teenage daughter would be hilarious. I'd imagine the nice calm Ross genetics wouldn't override the Roger/Holly/Blake crazy ones.

 

Unrelated question, watching some old episodes and Dylan and Sam are babysitting Susan/Daisy. Mrs. Lemay is enormously pregnant. I was watching when Brittany Snow's Susan came back but I don't remember her having an adoptive brother or sister. Did they ever say what happened to the baby Mrs. Lemay was pregnant with then?? I remember her being dead when Susan arrived, then Jim arriving a while later but not with another child in tow.

I seriously think that Frankie D was paying THEM to be on the show. He was not talented, he was no longer the hottie, his character was boring, etc. Deas, I think his "reputation" as an "actor"  in the goofy soap industry kept him around.

 

I always thought Clarissa should be fat and plain and a book worm and resentful of her sex pot Mom and more friends with Grandma Holly.

 

About Mrs. Lemay, you were expecting E & B and then later Kreizman to remember she was preggers? Hell, Kriezman and Wheeler sent her back in the same time machine that Amanda Spauldiing took to de age her to be a teenager...(presumably so BE could still be the "young" romantic heroine.)

I remember when GL was over there was an interview with Deas or Margaret Colin that basically said that they'd decided he could keep a steady job while she went and did things that were I guess her passion (like a lot of theater work) and other work that would take her away, and it would also leave him free for the kids. In that case I imagine he probably kept taking cuts in order to stay on the show.

 

4 hours ago, GH_Girl said:

 

The weird part of that is that generally the push at that time was ditch the vets and put young cheap hot people on contract instead. But Frank and Buzz?? lol Not young or hot, I have no idea about cheap but JD probably wasn't and FD had been around for a long time at that point so he couldn't have been cheaper than a newbie. Anyway, I'm sad we never saw teenage Jason/Kevin/Clarissa. Mostly because I think watching Blake get a bit of a comeuppance dealing with a teenage daughter would be hilarious. I'd imagine the nice calm Ross genetics wouldn't override the Roger/Holly/Blake crazy ones.

 

Unrelated question, watching some old episodes and Dylan and Sam are babysitting Susan/Daisy. Mrs. Lemay is enormously pregnant. I was watching when Brittany Snow's Susan came back but I don't remember her having an adoptive brother or sister. Did they ever say what happened to the baby Mrs. Lemay was pregnant with then?? I remember her being dead when Susan arrived, then Jim arriving a while later but not with another child in tow.

 

Funny you mention clarissa... I remember in 2003 or 2004...Ross and Holly had a conversation about the kids...and Ross remarked that Clarissa was very spirited for a child..and a handful for blake/ross...but that Holly was great with her...and Holly said in her dead pan way..that she and Clarissa had an understanding.  So the show looked to be hinting that Holly would be the buffer between Blake/Ross and a spirited Clarissa.   

6 hours ago, Mitch said:

I always thought Clarissa should be fat and plain and a book worm and resentful of her sex pot Mom and more friends with Grandma Holly.

 

*gasps*

 

No! Clarissa should've been a hot mess much like Holly and Blake were in their youth. It would've been funny to see Blake try and reel in and clean up Clarissa's messes much like Holly did hers and Barbara with Holly's messes. 

 

A few pages back I also said that I wished that Jason [Marler] was much like Roger (a tempest storm who was passionate & yearned to be loved) while Kevin was more like Ross (logical, ambitious, yet headstrong). I also said that I wish that Kevin look to Rick as a surrogate father (a nod to Ed being Blake's), which would annoy Blake because: 1. she feared he was trying to replace Ross 2. it would be a constant reminder of her tryst with Rick along with Rick one being believed to be Kevin's dad AND 3. Rick's part in Ross' death. 

 

That would've been so good and soapy...

1 hour ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

No! Clarissa should've been a hot mess much like Holly and Blake were in their youth. It would've been funny to see Blake try and reel in and clean up Clarissa's messes much like Holly did hers and Barbara with Holly's messes. 

 

I also love the idea of Clarissa having sooo much ammunition to throw back at Blake (and maybe Holly) because really what could Clarissa really do that would be worse than the things Blake did!

 

I agree with everything you said about Kevin/Rick, except in any fantasy future GL Ross has to not be dead!!! I don't care if he never died, was in a coma for 10+ years, or was raised by a mad scientist as long as he's not dead. Maybe he's been living in Goshen for years

Edited April 29, 20178 yr by GH_Girl

 

What a treat it is to see Nia Long's first episodes. Seeing these alongside her current arc on Empire, holy difference LOL.