I never really warmed up to BC's Beth. The Beth I grew up was victimized but she had an inner strength to her despite all the perils. 90s Beth is more of a vixen but more emotionally fragile-- which gets exponentially worse/toxic when she hooks up with Prince Edmund.

@alwaysAMC its also pretty cool that MKA is a direct desendent of our 2nd US President- John Adams.

I hated how they wrote her off of ATWT with no chance of returning. She was such a good fit with Lucinda as her sister. I recently saw her cameo on an old OLTL as Death-- that was a pleasant surprise.

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It was kinda unusual for the time, for both Josh and Blake to have multiple children with only one partner.

Given how many Reva kids popped out of the woodwork must've been great restraint to not give Josh kids where he had plenty of opportunities... knocking up Morgan on her way out of town, 84-86 in Venuzuela and 91-93 in Italy.

My favorite Reva storyline post-Annie was when Jonathan came to town. It was such karmic goodness, Reva's mini me. His diabolical plan to tear her family up. I have sympathy for GL viewers having to deal with two Revas with TP and KZ having the same over-the-top acting styles. I find that style very classic soap camp, but I get that some prefer more subtle performances.

22 minutes ago, Spoon said:

@alwaysAMC its also pretty cool that MKA is a direct desendent of our 2nd US President- John Adams.

I hated how they wrote her off of ATWT with no chance of returning. She was such a good fit with Lucinda as her sister. I recently saw her cameo on an old OLTL as Death-- that was a pleasant surprise.

Oh very cool - didn't know that

23 minutes ago, alwaysAMC said:

Y'all! I was watching a random ATWT episode last night and noticed Mary Kay Adams (India), but went to her Wiki just to make sure it was her. And to my absolute surprise, I learned she was one of my favorite female Klingon characters on Star Trek: DS9! I'm SHOCKED and so happy to figure this out. She played such a great Klingon, which is so different from India. I've got way more respect now for Mary Kay Adams haha.

I thought you knew! During MKA time on ATWT, she's involved with Joe Breen's character, Scott Eldredge. Joe Breen also plays Will Jeffries on GL, who was involved with Michelle Forbes' Sonni/Solita. Who natch, was on TNG and DS9. (this is the circle of soap life.)

2 hours ago, Soaplovers said:

I don't know if it was a re-write, but this brief snippet of an episode when Beth vanishes does kind of reveal that something valuable had been stolen from the museum so it's possible that it wasn't a re-write.

Thanks! I rechecked the recaps, but they just mention Alan faking a medical report. I'm going to assume he did. Beth's kidnapping was mixed up in Alan's return and the Von Halkein gold story. Phillip won't believe she's dead and puts his recovery at risk continuing to look for her. TPTB pulled the old no body found trick.

1 hour ago, DeeVee said:

I seem to recall that Alan had Jackson doing a lot of diving in the lake where Beth disappeared. Maybe he had him do it?

Though during the funeral scenes Jackson made a big show of grief and telling everyone he loved her, blah, blah...now I don't know if that was for show or it was just Loving Beth Raines Syndrome.

The recaps mention something about Jackson being in league with Alan. Jackson was so poorly thought out, he was just one of those characters who they threw into random plots. I think he had feels for Beth, but he never seemed on the up and up about anything.

21 minutes ago, Spoon said:

Given how many Reva kids popped out of the woodwork must've been great restraint to not give Josh kids where he had plenty of opportunities... knocking up Morgan on her way out of town, 84-86 in Venuzuela and 91-93 in Italy.

This is the thing that's so frustrating about how everything had to revolve around Reva. She never should have had another kid after Shayne. But, no, we had to have Jonathan and then have her miracle post-menopausal baby. Just ridiculous.

I strongly feel that Morgan should have been brought back at some point. I definitely have no objection to her bringing a Josh prog with her. It would have been anchored in the history of the show. Morgan had connections to several characters still on the show. It just made so much sense to bring her back.

But if she'd come back and had Josh's baby, that would have taken the focus off of Reva....we couldn't have THAT.

7 minutes ago, P.J. said:

The recaps mention something about Jackson being in league with Alan. Jackson was so poorly thought out, he was just one of those characters who they threw into random plots. I think he had feels for Beth, but he never seemed on the up and up about anything.

Did I really sit through all those available 1986 episodes?

Yes, I did. 😂

When Beth exposed the fact that Jackson sold some photos of Mindy (in--GASP!--her underwear) to a men's magazine, no one wanted anything to do with him. So Alan zoomed in and hired him because Jackson had no other possibility for employment.

He had him do some diving in the lake when people were looking for the chest of Andora gold. (Like why would Alan need that? He told India he was doing it for her but of course he wanted it for himself. It made as much sense as Alan selling stolen art, that whole year was a total joke).

Anyway, the chest got lost because some guy kidnapped Beth and took the chest. During the getaway the boat sank. That's why everyone thought Beth was dead.

So Jackson did some diving and he's so dumb his diving mask, which had prescription lenses, got dropped or something. The cops found it and matched the lenses to him, so he was briefly implicated in Beth's disappearance.

He didn't work for Alan long. For SOME REASON, the Lewises FORGAVE Jackson for what he did to Mindy. (Like Billy wouldn't have killed him!) They hired him at Lewis Oil. He ran around in a hard hat for a while doing whatever it is that they do there. So he was able to get under Alan's thumb.

1986 was SO bad.

24 minutes ago, P.J. said:

I thought you knew! During MKA time on ATWT, she's involved with Joe Breen's character, Scott Eldredge. Joe Breen also plays Will Jeffries on GL, who was involved with Michelle Forbes' Sonni/Solita. Who natch, was on TNG and DS9. (this is the circle of soap life.)

Haha I love that! I'm a huge fan of Michelle Forbes, so I can't wait to see her on GL when I ultimately get there. Of course I loved her in Trek, but she was also so good in True Blood.