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Y&R Episode Discussion for the week of July 20

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ITA, today's show was a winner.

The Winter's family came together and played their roles just right---- Lily(daddy's little girl) who is scared out of her mind but insists on being told anyway even though she doesn't want to know-----Aunt Liv the Dr who while trying very hard to be the professional, remembers her "dead" sister and the impact that lost has had on her neice---- Devon the brother who doesn't know what to say and so seems to be speaking nonsence----- Neil the parent who has just been given the kind of news about the health of his only child that no parent in the world wants to hear and by the look on his face and the tears in his eyes is wondering what he'll do if the unthinkable happens. With all this going on the best thing that could happen for this family today was that TYRA WAS MISSING.

That was the best part of the show. CK acting is still meh to me. All of Jill's sons are [!@#$%^&*]. Can Phillip 3 leave town already?? He really isnt needed anymore. TB's acting today was just awful. Billy and Mac's little tryst/meeting was rolleyes.gif . The Michael and Kevin chipmunk chat was just absurd. How much more of this ridiculous chipmunk crap do we have to endure??

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I have to give credit where credit's due - Christel's doing all right today. We've seen her phone it in way too often, but I thought she was really working hard today.

Liked the Billy/Phillip scene, and Billy talking about how he ran away to Hong Kong. Nice touch, bringing up how everybody was shoved into boarding school. I still think Phillip's coming across like the world's biggest douche, but at least the scenes are a little calmer today and not just smug snarkiness. Seriously, does Bierdz know how to be sympathetic anymore? Even at his worst twenty years ago, he still got you to feel sorry for him. Now I just want to deck him.

I don't know what to say about Michael and Kevin. Clearly, Michael's response ("Are you kidding me?!") mirrors so many of our responses. I do understand the story impulse here - Kevin tries to make lemonade out of lemons (writers trying to make lemonade out of lemons?) but I'm reserving judgment until I see where it's going and how it plays. I hate hearing "The C Word" but as long as that costume never shows up again on-camera, it doesn't bother me that much. Yet.

LOVE Liz's look today. And I think she lights up with Driscoll. Looking forward to watching more of these two.

More to come. Have to pause for lunch. :)

CK and the whole cancer thing is succeeding in part because of the writing and acting, but partly because it is HUMAN drama. It is not over the top. There are no uber-villains (except, maybe, the cancer cells).

Yes, I very much liked Billy's message to his brother. At the same time, I guess I have to put the blame for this P3 fiasco more on Bierdz's shoulders? Such coldness. When Driscoll's Chance is now also cold as ice, all I can think is "oh, he inherited the coldness, eh?".

P3 IS BACK FROM THE DEAD!!! There should be love and tears all around.

Honestly, Brimike, your generous expression of motives notwithstanding...the Chipmunk sh!t was the start (for me) of the downward slide. I'm glad both Jana and Michael are playing the distaste of this tale, but can't we just make all mentions of this bloody rodent disappear???

I love Jill, and im glad she doesn't pretend that she doesn't still love Cane like her own son. I hate when soaps just write people off when they are found out to be a fraud or not related (kinda like some of the Quatermaines did with Skye on GH lol).

Yes. I wish Jill and Kay could get to the same place.

Finishing up the show - I really think everyone in the cancer story today is doing a fine job. Really moving. I even teared up a little, and usually I don't care about Lily.

Thought Jill's scenes with Michael were great - but what inheritance? All Jill has at this point is the house, right? She's lost everything else? Hell, I just liked seeing Michael and Jill in scenes together. I can't remember the last time that happened.

I'm wondering if Kevin's new business venture will end up driving a wedge between him and Jana. I do think the idea of profiting off of other's need for therapy could be an interesting story, but unfortunately, there's such a fan stigma attached to the 'Munk, will anybody be able to see past the squeaky-voiced costume and see how going into the self-help world might prove Kevin/Jana's undoing?

I liked Mac and Billy throwing down over Cane.

Liz Hendrickson is GLOWING today.

I hope this builds to Chance punching the daylights out of Phillip. I know I'll be cheering.

SO GLAD there was that Neil/Olivia scene at the end. Really REALLY touching. *sniff* Kristoff brought me to tears. And the scoring over the last few scenes - Neil/Olivia, then Devon/Lily/Colleen, then Mac/Cane, really lifted up the whole final moments of the show. Good stuff.

I didn't like Jill's scenes with Michael. Again, there is no heart. Jill didn't show much emotion. It was all business. I would have liked to have seen some subtext of "Okay, I have to consider P3...but that smarmy bastard is not worth my money. Cane...I love him!" I wanted to see that in her eyes--she is capable--but I didn't.

Please, please, please make the Munk stop. Can't they rewrite? Throw out scenes already taped? I really need it to stop!!!

So far, I find Chance as cold as his daddy. No one to root for yet. But daddy is just ... emotionally broken. It feels like Mr Spock, without the brains.

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Honestly, Brimike, your generous expression of motives notwithstanding...the Chipmunk sh!t was the start (for me) of the downward slide. I'm glad both Jana and Michael are playing the distaste of this tale, but can't we just make all mentions of this bloody rodent disappear???

Wow, I never thought I'd see Mark call someone out about being too "generous" about certain things on this show. Mark is usually the target of such posts by Sylph and I. :lol:

The rodent should disappears, and since they can't think of anything creative and you know, good for these characters, Kevin and Jana should be written out. I like the actors, but I feel the time for these characters has come and gone, likewise with Jeffrey and Gloria.

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I like the actors, but I feel the time for these characters has come and gone, likewise with Jeffrey and Gloria.

I agree, given what they have all been given to play for a long time....

The show needs focus, and I'm fine with this being how it is done.

Lauren was mentioned on B&B last week, and it reminded me how much I missed fiesty Lauren.

I'm starting to wonder if somehow they need to separate Michael and Lauren in a dramatic way -- like, send him on the run for some crime he has committed -- so she can be alone and angry again.

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Jill still loves and accepts Cane as her son but cant fathom, Katherine feeling the same towards her even thought Kat didnt defraud her and play her for a fool for years :blink:?

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^^^^^It's totally unrealistic that Jill would get over Cane's fraud this fast. They didn't even show any sufficient fallout about how JILL FELT about Cane after the Phillip III reveal and that was just two damn weeks ago.

Just another part of this Cane propping story....

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Liv's eyes before she told Neil and Devon the bad news. :wub:

"Embrace your inner nut" <_<

"Rodent-inspired tshirts" :lol:

Driscoll's eyes when he looked into Chloe's eyes for the first time. :wub:

"I have Cancer?" :) That was well done. She needs to speak in that octave from now on lol. I assumed she'd get whinier as the news got worse and worse.

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Driscoll has got to be the tallest castmember on y&r, ever right? I love how affectionate he is with Cast; I know if I was playing the mom for a tall glass of water like that, I'd be all over him too.

Ford needs a new weave lol.

"Another time." :lol: Talk about unintentionally funny.

Eww are Billy and Mac gonna have sex in the same bed his grandmaw did lol?

Why would Billy know where Cane is, Colleen?? Dimwit lol.

"Your son faked his own death to get away from you." :lol::lol: Another gem!!

Kevin's hair :lol:

"Donate your profit to charity" Jana must want to stay in the poorhouse lol.

I know Jill's got a soft spot for her sons but she needs to slap P3 off the top of his head already.

"No, it's not really my business." Love this Chance dude. Hate the name. Ick.

"Maybe because I saw a part of Dru in our little girl." Is Dru from the Valley too then?? What a retcon that'd be. I guess Dru can't be an independent careerwoman either.

Why is Devon still preventing Cane from seeing Lily? She's about to die, yo.

Oh man, Neil needs children. There are no more winters in genoa city after Lily.

Oooh Deacon's back tomorrow!! Fun.

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UGH, tomorrow's US episode...

This art stuff and the Scobbies just gets worse and worse. God, this stuff looks like crap on paper, did they really think it would play out much better on screen?

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I'm starting to wonder if somehow they need to separate Michael and Lauren in a dramatic way -- like, send him on the run for some crime he has committed -- so she can be alone and angry again.

Dear God no! :o Lauren is not worth losing Michael.

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Dear God no! :o Lauren is not worth losing Michael.

I don't think you have to worry about that, MAB and Company obviously have no intention of writing for these characters.

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I heart TC. She makes the Phillip storyline for me. As the P3 stuff plays out, he's more and more working as a jerk.

With all this going on the best thing that could happen for this family today was that TYRA WAS MISSING.

Best damn thing about the day. I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop and she come waltzing in, and was more than pleasantly surprised. I went back and actually watched again so I could enjoy. And they were good scenes for all the Winters. I had read some of the comments here about CK today so I had an idea, but she did impress me.

I'm glad despite the running around of Mac and Billy, Mac hasn't lost her backbone in this and stood up to Billy and went and found Cane. I like the Mac addition to this story--character wise, IMO, it would be Mac going to try and do the right thing.

TS, shockingly, was a total let down today. Between not being able to understand half of her from the accent and mumbling, she has fast become the biggest waste of this story too. Her reactions were not what I would have wanted Colleen to do, but then again, she's not really been Colleen in a long time.

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Kevin is getting beyond annoying. I say he goes nuts, blacks out, stabs Jana then has to learn it later after he is arrested and everyone has to kind of fill in the blanks as she clings to life...

*runs off to write my fic ;)*

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Good points, all. Why did the writers put us all through that "Who's the daddy" SL with Chloe if A) Cane knew all along the rug rat wasn't his and B) Billy doesn't seem to care.

I still like Billy mostly because of Billy Miller. The writing for the character is all over the place. He bought Murphy's old trailer just in the hopes of banging Mac there? Wouldn't it have been easier (and cheaper) to get a room in that motel that Jack and Adam used a few months ago? Mac must have a cooter made of gold for him to be jonesin' after it the way he is. :D

Billy won't have to buy that trailer if he just give Chloe that divorce. then he can bang Mac anywhere. How cheap is he treating the love of his life? Are they now trailer park trash.

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