I think Y&R has far more popular heroines than Lily...

I'd be really interested whom you would include in that list!

Imagine if the supposed spit went down like this? lol

start it at 48 seconds

The actor is Daniel Kennedy. I've read that he works as a real agent estate now too.

That's what I thought too at first, but Nelson said that he "failed to earn a final nod"--which makes me think it's someone who is either no longer on their show or is currently on GL.

The problem is that KSJ supposedly hate her

Not at all.

Shemar Moore's brief return a few years back wasn't that successful in the ratings either.

Cause Jack wasted him.

The actor is Daniel Kennedy.

Is that why Petey/Colby was dropped?

Imagine if the supposed spit went down like this? lol

Oh man, that is foul. Even if what happened with MS/VR was not remotely like that, it is easy to see why she was really upset about it.

That's what I thought too at first, but Nelson said that he "failed to earn a final nod"--which makes me think it's someone who is either no longer on their show or is currently on GL.

OT: That is an amazing RH banner! I've been watching it mornings too.

In a spit war between Vicky and Michelle, my money's on Vicky.

In a spit war between Vicky and Michelle, my money's on Vicky.

But I'm guessing VR had the grace and dignity not to respond in kind.

What proof is there of this? People didn't watch in droves to see her exit storyline. Shemar Moore's brief return a few years back wasn't that successful in the ratings either.

The ratings were very high whens he was pretty much *the* frontburner female during LML's run. No matter how crazy the writing got, she was bringing in viewers. LML's writing was so lopsided only a few were featured. I highly doubt people were tuning in for Don Diamont and Amelia Heinle, her fellow frontburner co-stars.

And don't even mention Shemar Moore's return! He did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING the entire time he was there. WTF?! They waste Tonya Lee Williams when she's still 100% available, the Lily/Malcolm stuff was secondary and not even resolved. It was sick. Then they put him in a romance with a newbie who was just terrible. I'm sorry, but if I were a Shemar Moore fan I wouldn't stick around for that either.

The ratings were very high whens he was pretty much *the* frontburner female during LML's run. No matter how crazy the writing got, she was bringing in viewers. LML's writing was so lopsided only a few were featured. I highly doubt people were tuning in for Don Diamont and Amelia Heinle, her fellow frontburner co-stars.

I don't think any star in daytime is big enough to bring in the ratings and make them stick. The only example I can find is Vanessa Marcil's return to GH. But Y&R didn't lose a million viewers immediately after Rowell left, it took over a year for them to really plummet. Daytime is an ensemble effort, no one star makes or break a show.

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I'd be really interested whom you would include in that list!

Sharon, for one. I was also thinking Kay, Jill, Nikki, but apparently they wouldn't qualify as heroines?

Wasn't it in TV Guice that Y&R lost something like a million viewers after Shemar Moore left the first time?

Then they put him in a romance with a newbie who was just terrible.

I cannot remember him in a romance, who was that?

who was that?

Adrienne.

Wasn't it in TV Guice that Y&R lost something like a million viewers after Shemar Moore left the first time?

Yup, that's what Michael Logan claimed.

If you actually plot out the ratings trends, there is no evidence of a huge precipitous drop at any point in time except when MAB took over the show.

Does anyone remember the date (month/year) when Shemar left? I obviously have the data, and could quickly see if the claim is borne out by data.

But he left during Alden's run, right? And there is no denying that Alden bled-out viewers, on a weekly basis, throughout her whole HW run. At least, that's what the ratings data show.

Adrienne.

Leon? Seriously who is that?

Was that Damon's ex-wife? The one with the fucked up haircut? The one that was a reporter for ET or something?

Does anyone remember the date (month/year) when Shemar left? I obviously have the data, and could quickly see if the claim is borne out by data.

February 14, 2002 - First stint.

September 1, 2005 - Second Stint.

Was that Damon's ex-wife? The one with the fucked up haircut? The one that was a reporter for ET or something?

Yep.

Lil Miss Flowbee herself.