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On 7/6/2025 at 5:18 PM, Franko said:

Any thoughts on the Gwen and Hank recasts, @LostinHarmony?

I'm torn between whether Liza Huber or Natalie Zea was the better Gwen. And I really wish the show had pulled the trigger on Gwen & Hank. I want to say that there was some chem testing between Zea and Ryan McPartlin. It would have been nice to have a rich-middle class couple that didn't have tons of drama. I can't remember, is that what Sam & Ivy were on their way to becoming, a tentpole couple?

Slightly veering from recasts, I think that the show's attempts to replicate the Tabitha & Timmy dynamic after Josh Ryan Evans' untimely passing just didn't work. We really didn't need little Endora.

We must be roughly the same age, LIH. I turned 11 shortly after the show premiered. And at some point in middle school, I screamed at the TV the day that Hecuba used her magic to split Luis & Sheridan's "love noodle" (not a euphemism).

I thought both Liza and Natalie were good in the role. Natalie made Gwen more likeable in my opinion and I wouldn't have minded her Gwen and Ryan McPartlin's Hank together. Ryan's Hank was pretty to look at, but him replacing Dalton James might as well had been another character. I'll never forget when Liza returned to the role on her first day back and blamed Theresa for why Ethan was stuck in the elevator, I was like there goes our "villain" version of Gwen and she hopped right into it. 

I hear you on Josh Ryan Evans, he was definitiley irreplaceable. To be honest, the show got "lucky," for lack of a better word, that the storyline played on screen the way it did to explain everything. Not sure if you know, but the original intenet was for him to die on screen as a real boy and be resurrected later that year as a doll again. I didn't mind Endora, but what would you have preferred for Tabitha's projectory? 

I'm only 2 years younger than you, I was 9 when the show premiered. 

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12 minutes ago, LostinHarmony said:

I thought both Liza and Natalie were good in the role. Natalie made Gwen more likeable in my opinion and I wouldn't have minded her Gwen and Ryan McPartlin's Hank together. Ryan's Hank was pretty to look at, but him replacing Dalton James might as well had been another character. I'll never forget when Liza returned to the role on her first day back and blamed Theresa for why Ethan was stuck in the elevator, I was like there goes our "villain" version of Gwen and she hopped right into it. 

Oh, that's right, I forgot Liza returned to the role of Gwen.

12 minutes ago, LostinHarmony said:

I hear you on Josh Ryan Evans, he was definitiley irreplaceable. To be honest, the show got "lucky," for lack of a better word, that the storyline played on screen the way it did to explain everything. Not sure if you know, but the original intenet was for him to die on screen as a real boy and be resurrected later that year as a doll again. I didn't mind Endora, but what would you have preferred for Tabitha's projectory? 

I would have kept Kay as Tabitha's sidekick, although I suppose the writers might have wanted to limit that and keep the younger woman in more romance/intrigue stories, as opposed to the more camp and comedy stuff.

12 minutes ago, LostinHarmony said:

I'm only 2 years younger than you, I was 9 when the show premiered. 

Whoops, couldn't erase that last quote. It makes me wonder how many, if any, of today's school-aged kids are getting into Beyond the Gates.

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On 4/21/2025 at 9:11 PM, DRW50 said:

The repeated Buffy references seemed to be Passions' cultural peak. 

That was around the same time they kept appearing on VH1's Best Week Ever and when they got 2 covers for TV Guide Magaine. Definitley the best years of the show.

On 7/6/2025 at 2:40 PM, DRW50 said:

Chad seemed to be another case of an iffy recast. Not really sure what to say about any of that story. It seemed like a lot of the stories for Simone or Jessica became much darker when they got older. I don't know if that was just the show getting darker or if JER ran out of ideas for them.

Yes, Donn Swabby was the better Chad to me, although Charles Divins did eventually grow on me.

I would love to peek inside the original bible for this show because it definitley got darker. Up until shortly after Josh Ryan Evans passed away, the show felt more in sync. Then it got dark... some of it I enjoyed like Sheridan in the pit and the whole Beth and Charlie thing, but once Jessica was being pimped out, the blackmailer half man/half woman storyline, etc. it felt like a different show almost like it had forgot what it was. 

 

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Passions was THAT soap for us millennials growing up and it absolutely opened the doors for me to get into Y&R and Days. Y&R was always a bit too “mature” for me at the time. I was too young to follow the business storylines and such but I did eventually grow into it around 14 near the end of Passions. 
 

The issue with Passions I think is they kept all these triangles going way too long (literally the entire show). They should have shaken things up more. Theresa/Ethan/Gwen being the most notable but the Luis/Sheridan stuff was exhausting as well especially during the Antonio years.. (god we all hated him I think right?) I mean atleast Beth was crazy and interesting. The show always dug into the whole idea of people being soul mates and “star crossed lovers” which is fine to point but it limited the ability to like different pairings. 
 

The irony of it all is that JER spent the entire show investing in Shuis just to put him with Fancy in the end. What was even the point of any of that? He knew how to write interesting characters but his actual storytelling was awful and I never really realized that until I started discovering the other soaps and then I realized “oh this is why Passions got cancelled” 

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15 minutes ago, Ryanc2 said:

(god we all hated him I think right?)

The only other character I hated more was Gwen 😂😂😂

I actually remember being happy when he was “killed off”

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So was there an original plan for the show to keep the Timmy doll onscreen as a talk to for Tabitha instead if he was going to be resurrected as a doll? Does anyone think that the doll would have worked better than Endora and her pop up bubbles?

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On 7/16/2025 at 12:23 PM, AbcNbc247 said:

The only other character I hated more was Gwen 😂😂😂

I actually remember being happy when he was “killed off”

I hated Gwen too for obvious reasons (even though I did have moments of empathizing with her during Sarah’s death. Liza Huber really shined in those scenes with her grieving Sarah.) 

Another character I hated (found to be really boring) was Grace but I was surprised at how much I actually kind of missed her once she was gone. Looking back, she was a pretty important character for the show and I felt like her exit was kind of symbolic at the time for when the show started going downhill. The Bennett family ended up becoming really fractured by the end of the show. Charity should have stayed too, they invested so much in her being a heroine in the show & I know she had her fans back then. 

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Was there a character on Passions named Elijah Sanders or is that just something someone put on their Wiki for fun?

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57 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Was there a character on Passions named Elijah Sanders or is that just something someone put on their Wiki for fun?

Theres this really strange person who posts under all the Passions episodes talking about made up characters and storylines that never actually happened in the show. It’s like a fan fiction fantasy in their head & that name sounds familiar so I think it could be them 🤣

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Just now, Ryanc2 said:

Theres this really strange person who posts under all the Passions episodes talking about made up characters and storylines that never actually happened in the show. It’s like a fan fiction fantasy in their head & that name sounds familiar so I think it could be them 🤣

Thanks.

That happened a lot with the Soapcentral bios for Guiding Light...I suppose this is just a newer era version.

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On 7/16/2025 at 9:09 AM, Ryanc2 said:

the Antonio years.. (god we all hated him I think right?)

YES! lmao

I also didn't like Fancy with Luis, she was better paired with Noah in my opinion. 

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Noah and Fancy definitely should have ended up together in the end & Sheridan and Luis of course. 
 

Noah and Fancy just made sense as a couple and had obvious chemistry. I also didn’t see the chemistry when Noah was put with Paloma.. 

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Why did the JER tire of Sheridan/Luis anyway? He seemed to stay with all of his other forever couples. 

Were Sam and Ivy also meant to be a forever couple, or did he just get tired of Grace?

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I always wondered what happened re: Sheridan. Maybe McKenzie Westmore pissed him off, or maybe St. JER just got horny for some younger face.

It is astonishing to me how much they initially hung around Grace when Dana Sparks was one of the worst actors on a remarkably bad show. That also seemed like a course change given how much Grace and Charity were built up, but I doubt it was about her acting ability because he never cared much about that.

I do think Ethan and crazy Theresa were always meant to end up together. But I think Miguel and Kay were a course change, as possibly was Sam and Ivy, where JER let his very tortured relationship with his faith and his concept of good vs. sin/evil transgress, break the rules and let the 'bad'/more 'fun' character get the man. The longer the show went on and the older he got, the more frankly depraved the work got and his past, proto-puritanical sense of ethics faded away. That's not to say the original couples were any better, just that his outlook had clearly altered and grown much more coarse.

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Miguel and Kay was definitely a course correction. I remember Tabitha going on about how if and when Miguel and Charity got together, they'd destroy evil with the purity of their love, or something like that. I can only imagine what Jesse Metcalfe and Molly Stanton thought when the cameras weren't rolling.

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