Then by that token, Summer should die, since she's also the result of an affair.

It would be stupid to give Billy two children by two different mother's in the span of a year.

Phyllis already lost one child, why should she have to suffer the loss of another?? only so some fans can be egstatic that her tie to Nick is broken??? Summer is just the icing on the cake, Nicke FELL in love with Phyllis before there was a Summer Newman or before Phyllis found out she was pregnant. History can not be re-written just to appease one certain fanbase or any one fan.

Then by that token, Summer should die, since she's also the result of an affair.

It would be stupid to give Billy two children by two different mother's in the span of a year.

It's not the affair, it's the gang bang mentality that I don't want to see rewarded. Summer shouldn't die, but she should be Jack's. It would be fun to address why Nick would claim the baby as his own and leave his family to play house with his ex step daddy's baby and wife.

I don't see how it's stupid for Billy to wind up with two infants because he's too stupid to put on a condom. Herpes would have been better for this storyline than another baby, but people don't get incurable STI's on soaps.

What has Phyllis gained from being paired with Nick? Nothing.

Phyllis should be with a more dynamic character, and sorry, there's nothing interesting and complex about Nick.

Nick watered Phyllis down to someone I didn't recognize anymore.

Phyllis looks like Nick's older sister, Morrow really makes Stafford look her age. Nothing wrong with age, but when I see it on TV, it's so unflattering to the actors.

And again, I don't see what a woman like Phyllis wants in a dull-ass creature like Nick.

Exactly, they were never compelling in the first place. The only thing interesting about them was their affair, and that was only because it was forbidden.

The best thing to happen to them was Sharon and Nick screwing again. It particularly did wonders for Stafford's acting.

But soon, it's just time for Phyllis to move on from Nick and let him go. Why does she want someone like that? He clearly isn't over his ex and she tolerates it.

But first...

CANE MUST DIE!!!!

That should have been in the first post of this thread so it would be on every page because it just can't be said enough. And he needs to take Glo and Jeffery with him!

If, I fail to see the appeal or the talent in MG....

If Phick wasn't so horrible, there would be nothing to talk about in regards to them, from my view...

Amen!

Awesome 7-year old Thom Bierdz interview....

He's a very strong and brave man. I can't imagine going through a fraction of what he went through. I'm looking forward to seeing him on the show, having only become a viewer recently.

As for the Sharon/Nick/Phyllis triangle, I want Nick to be with Sharon. Just sayin.

This part I do not understand, there never was anything "perfect" about the Nick and Sharon relationship, she came on canvas as a gold-digger, she practically stole him from Amy and she lied to him from day one!, couple that with her getting pregnant on purpose and the un-wanted pregnancy (on Nick's side) of Noah, followed by the beginning of their I cheat, you cheat, rinse and repeat. I think a child born from an adulteress affair suits Nick and Sharon to a tee!! In some fans views there never was anything appealing about SHICK be it while they were married or when they commit adultery together. All this "fairy tale" or "Sharon is Nick's Juliet" description about SHICK is hilarious!

I'm pretty sure I never said anything approaching that. It's not about Nick and Sharon, it's about Cassie and her memory. Not everyone on this board has an over the top agenda when it comes to this quad.

I'm pretty sure I never said anything approaching that. It's not about Nick and Sharon, it's about Cassie and her memory. Not everyone on this board has an over the top agenda when it comes to this quad.

For that I am grateful.

Damn,

the wedding party continues on Tuesday.

I'm pretty sure I never said anything approaching that. It's not about Nick and Sharon, it's about Cassie and her memory. Not everyone on this board has an over the top agenda when it comes to this quad.

Pretty much.

I'm pretty sure I never said anything approaching that. It's not about Nick and Sharon, it's about Cassie and her memory. Not everyone on this board has an over the top agenda when it comes to this quad.

in that case Cassie is dead and it is sad that the writers are using Cassie as sexual foreplay for Nick and Sharon, it seems they have to discuss Cassie before they have adulteress sex! Why can't the love they have for their living child be the glue that binds them and the reason for them to re-unite??? why does it have to be Cassie and this child that probably is not even Nick's child, why can't their own biological child be enough?!

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in that case Cassie and dead and it is sad that the writers are using Cassie as sexual foreplay for Nick and Sharon, it seems they have to discuss Cassie before they have adulteress sex! Why can't the love they have for their living child be the glue that binds them and the reason for them to re-unite??? why does it have to be Cassie and a child that probably is not even Nick's?!

I've never said a child has to be the reason they reunite at all. I wasn't even talking about what I want to happen, I'm talking about what I believe will happen based on 20 years of watching soaps. It is all but inevitable that Nick and Sharon will reunite some day and then break up again. Just like Victor and Nikki have done that dance over and over. I also believe at some point Y&R will give them another daughter. Not because I want that to happen, I just think that's a card the show will play down the road. Time will tell.

I've never said a child has to be the reason they reunite at all. I wasn't even talking about what I want to happen, I'm talking about what I believe will happen based on 20 years of watching soaps. It is all but inevitable that Nick and Sharon will reunite some day and then break up again. Just like Victor and Nikki have done that dance over and over. I also believe at some point Y&R will give them another daughter. Not because I want that to happen, I just think that's a card the show will play down the road. Time will tell.

I am far from a Sharon and Nick fan but even I think they will get their daughter some day. What I want to happen and what I think will happen are often two different mindsets.

I have never seen Nick and Sharon as the "new" Victor and Nikki, they just never had the "umph" that would quantify them as a super couple! for the 10 years they were married they did not inter-act that much with the rest of the cast, they were on their little fantasy island save for the cheating partners they had, they just never had substance to me. And in my 45 year history of soap opera watching, I have yet to see where a couple "HAVE" to re-unite??? there are alot of couples in soap history that never re-untied after getting a divorce! I personally see no reason to have to suffer through more wasted air time of this toxic and boring couple!!! again, why try to recapture the past when the past SUCKED!

I have never seen Nick and Sharon as the "new" Victor and Nikki, they just never had the "umph" that would quantify them as a super couple! for the 10 years they were married they did not inter-act that much with the rest of the cast, they were on their little fantasy island save for the cheating partners they had, they just never had substance to me. And in my 45 year history of soap opera watching, I have yet to see where a couple "HAVE" to re-unite??? there are alot of couples in soap history that never re-untied after getting a divorce! I personally see no reason to have to suffer through more wasted air time of this toxic and boring couple!!! again, why try to recapture the past when the past SUCKED!

I didn't say they are the new Victor and Nikki. I said they will get together again and break up again just like Victor and Nikki have. And I didn't say it "has" to happen. I said I believe it will. The show has given me every possibly indication of this. Personally, I've never been a big fan of Sharon and Nick, but I think the writing is on the wall.

in that case Cassie is dead and it is sad that the writers are using Cassie as sexual foreplay for Nick and Sharon, it seems they have to discuss Cassie before they have adulteress sex!

The grief they share over Cassie dying is what keeps bringing them together. To insinuate that they are actually using their dead child as foreplay is sick, if putting it in those terms to defend your preferred couple makes you feel better then so be it.

I have never seen Nick and Sharon as the "new" Victor and Nikki, they just never had the "umph" that would quantify them as a super couple! for the 10 years they were married they did not inter-act that much with the rest of the cast, they were on their little fantasy island save for the cheating partners they had, they just never had substance to me. And in my 45 year history of soap opera watching, I have yet to see where a couple "HAVE" to re-unite??? there are alot of couples in soap history that never re-untied after getting a divorce! I personally see no reason to have to suffer through more wasted air time of this toxic and boring couple!!! again, why try to recapture the past when the past SUCKED!

You've watched soaps for 45 years and you've yet to see where a couple had to reunite?!?!

There are plenty of people who see no reason to have to suffer through more wasted air time on Phick too.

I would like it if both Sharon and Phyllis both found someone other then Nick.

It's Y&R's fault for writing to many situations where sex is supposed to be this magic cure all to almost anything.