GH: May Discussion Thread

[Cat]

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[Ann_SS]

True. Tristan Rogers complained about how Robert treated Robin when he first returned and the antagonism was toned down in his future visits. The Robert/Robin relationship was finally repaired by Sri Rao on Night Shift 2. Tony Geary is going the other way. I read that interview and it totally convinced me that my don't care any more strategy is the right one.

[Cat]

TG has always considered himself a maverick. A provocateur. For decades, people were always telling him what a maverick anti-hero Luke was. I guess he finally believed the BS.

But I agree, Ann_SS. Returning to GH recently and watching it "at a distance," just enjoying it for the little things it can do right, not getting too invested in the characters, is the way to go. I have found a new appreciation for parts of the show as a result, which is kind of weird, LOL. Even Sonny doing his "Why me, God, why?" shtick in the hospital chapel doesn't bother me as much as it used to. Of course, that may change according to the changes in plot...

[DRW50]

I think you both have the right idea, but the contempt GH has for the viewers is just so blatant I have a hard time disconnecting from feelings of disgust. I also don't get how they manage to do so wrong by people they seem to love, like Spinelli. I just don't understand what they do. I don't understand how they manage to burn through so many flavors of the month (Logan, Cooper, that young cop Maxie dated who was killed). I keep thinking they are going to kill off Johnny soon, for the same reason. I'm surprised they haven't yet. Perhaps someone put their foot down.

[MarkH]

So, I'm genuinely interested in the issue of Ethan's paternity.

I think if he's Robert's there is some real traction here: First, they can pursue the Lulu thing. Second, Geary can play the homoerotic subtext he seems to be playing without seeming incestuous. Third, it continues to reaffirm Robert as Holly's great love. Fourth, once Ethan grows up, it gives Robin more family in PC. That's a good thing, because it might humanize Ethan...and I'd love to see Robin as a "big sister" to someone besides Maxie. Finally, it retains the footprint of the Scorpios in PC...

Of course, the beat that is missing is Robert and ANNA's reaction to all this. Maybe that will get played on Night Shift 3 .

Do we know anything for CERTAIN now? I'm so confused, between switched DNA and allegations of Holly lying.

[MarkH]

Benard did this scene with ... forget her name ... the Bronx girl ... the other day. And he was really jealous/upset that she had slept with Johnny. He felt he was losing a friend. And he was listing his miserable life...being married to a woman he can't stand blah blah blah.

It was a pity party, but it was funny. I don't know if Benard meant it to come out that way, but there was real humor in Sonny eliciting sympathy for himself. It made me wonder if there is a subtext in the writing of "Sonny's an idiot...he just doesn't realize it".

[JackPeyton]

I actually think that MB comes alive when in scenes with LL (Olivia).

As for geary, he does a lot more than let them do this to luke, he plays a vary big hand in it. people always bash SB and MB but leave TG out of it. he is just as bad, if not worse. The luke you are seeing now is the luke TG wants.

[Cat]

I like MB with LLC, too. But then, I am a newly-converted Olivia fangirl. I also think, Mark, that Benard WAS playing it for laughs. He was playing it so Olivia could say "Oh, boo hoo! Grow up!"

And ITA about TG. I do think he is a creative person who wanted more for himself than Daytime. He found the sudden fame difficult to handle in the 80s (drugs, lack of privacy, etc). He's always wanted to play darker stuff and push the envelope. Now he's saddled with this job that I don't think he is particularly enamoured of, but it pays the rent and more besides. He is frustrated and feeling like his best opportunities are behind him. So might as well get your kicks where you can. And wield power where you can.

I often wonder what TG would do with a role on another soap. The type of role often offered to Roscoe Born (and I just need this excuse to say that i was IN LOVE with Born's Robert Barr on Santa Barbara. But that's not the type of role I am talking about).

[MarkH]

Not to psychobabble but...

You can watch his engagement with look as a long process of DISengagement. First he said he hated soaps. Then, after he was on top, he quit. Then, he came back as someone else. Then, apparently, he came back as a Luke he HATED...but has brought Luke to this point. Somewhere along the line, he started taking half the year off.

He's felt shackled by Luke a lot in the past. Maybe his goal is to resolutely KILL Luke...turn him into something even his most ardent fans could not support. Maybe even expose the real ugliness that was always there...from the time he was a rapist and hoodlum. To make us FACE what utter SLIME we "worshipped" ("Rape me, Luke") for too long.

Once he makes us confront the real ugliness in behind the fairy tale, and we let him go, he can quit, live on his savings, and spend the rest of his days free of Luke. Because no one will ever want to see that foul wreck of a human again.

[Cat]

Yep. I honestly think this is his way of screaming "Let me GO!!"

[S&BFanForLife]

Oh, yeah. Emma is a scene stealer.

I've been a Scrubs fan from the beginning. However, I understand your frustration with Robin. There are times when I want to slap her. I guess that comes with the character being Guzafied.

[JackPeyton]

He could always quit.

But he wont. hes happy at GH. He gets what he wants.

I wouldnt be shocked if he did quit if Guza ever left tho.

[Ann_SS]

Tony Geary isn't that deep. He is on GH for the money. Amsterdam is an expensive place to live. He isn't quitting unless his health or something else happens. He will be on GH on its last day which won't be that long from now.

Oh, I understand the feelings of disgust watching GH. It got to the point of overwhelming me and I would be literally be enraged at what was happening on the screen. Then I had a moment of clarity and realized that I had to gain some perspective. This is just a soap where people are working to make a buck. They really don't care so I had to stop caring about the show as a whole. I still care about my favorite character, Robin and her relationship with Patrick and there are the occasional entertaining moments, but really, I'm done. It is disappointing because GH has so much potential. I will never understand Bob Guza or JFP. They are like children who smash everything in sight to entertain themselves and expect us to be entertained.

And I totally believe that Johnny is dead man walking. He does not have much longer.

[Cat]

He's not the only one. I'll bet Maurice Benard and Steve Burton would be out the door if Guza left. Laura Wright and Kelly Monaco might be persuaded to stay. Kim McCullough sounds like she's ready to try new avenues, no matter who is writing. Jason Thomson has been taken under MB's wing so maybe he would leave, too. NLG will stay with whoever wants to write for her.

[S&BFanForLife]

I agree, Cat. I see it going down just like that. Hopefully, KMc and JT will leave together. I can't see Robin without Patrick or vice versa.