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Tears in soap city starting to look real

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http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/St...9993&page=1

Tears in Soap City Starting to Look Real

Hit by Recession, Straying Viewership, Daytime TV Learns to Do More With Less -- Just Ask Susan Lucci

By JOHN BERMAN and STEVEN BAKER

April 30, 2009

Screaming breakups, familial betrayal, remorseless murder, deadly revenge. Over the years, the inhabitants of Pine Valley, the setting of ABC's hit daytime drama "All My Children," have pretty much seen it all.

Watch the story tonight on "Nightline" at 11:35 p.m. ET

Take Erica Kane, the most famous Pine Valley resident, who is too beset even to find time to deal with the loss of her son, the victim of a brutal murder at the hands of her son-in-law for his healthy heart, which was needed for a life-saving transplant for her daughter.

Erica Kane has been through a lot. But the peril she now faces may be without precedent, even in the turbulent world of daytime television drama.

It's the Great Recession.

"It is hitting Pine Valley, we are not unique," said Julie Hanan Carruthers, the show's executive producer.

So far, the tough economic times haven't actually worked their way into the soaps' ever-evolving plot lines. But behind the scenes, daytime shows face tighter budgets, shrunken ad revenues and competition for viewer attention from new media.

Other Soap Cities have felt the hit even more deeply than Pine Valley. CBS recently announced that it would pull "Guiding Light" off the air this September -- after 72 years of daily episodes. And NBC laid off Deidre Hall, a mainstay of "Days of Our Lives" for 32 years.

"The recession has affected everything and obviously, you know, my big challenge is, how do you tighten a budget and not see it on the air?" said Hanan Carruthers.

The Miracle of Daytime Television

What is on the air on shows like "All My Children" is nothing short of an entertainment miracle. The cast and crew shoot 50 weeks a year, putting a new show on every weekday, juggling crew, sets, costumes and actors. And now they have to do it in the toughest economic environment any of them have seen.

Frank Valentini, who runs "One Life to Live," said changes in media technology have made it more difficult to hold viewers' attention.

"I think the biggest challenge for the media is it is so fragmented right now that people are either multi-tasking, surfing the Net, texting, talking on the phone all at once," said Valentini. "So, I think to truly capture their attention for the 45 minutes a day, and not just those 45 minutes that day, but for the five days and the following weeks ... once a story starts, it has to start with a bang and then go from there."

Viewers have many more entertainment options now than they did in 1981, when Luke and Laura's wedding on "General Hospital" pulled in 30 million viewers. These days, soaps are lucky to pull in 3 million.

"I don't know that we will see that in daytime anymore, those kinds of numbers," said Hanan Carruthers. "There is certainly that kind of commitment. There is certainly the interest. But people are recording, or they are reading about it, or they are looking at it streaming online."

The need to attract and keep a wider audience has inspired creative solutions. "One Life to Live" regularly brings in big-name musical guests, like Mary J. Blige and the Pussycat Dolls. On "All My Children," story lines have been built around paid placements for products, such as Campbell's Soup.

Soaps Improvise Solutions to Economic Pinch

"One of the things that I love is actually using real products, because it validates and authenticates our fictitious Pine Valley," said Hanan Carruthers. "Our challenge, and my goal, is that when we do it, it happens in a very natural and organic way, so that we aren't going back to the days of holding up the soap box, actually doing a commercial in the middle of the show."

But the down economy hasn't been all bad news for Pine Valley.

"It's actually, in an odd way, getting easier," said Hanan Carruthers. "The economic state of the world kind of made everyone here pull together."

The banner example may be Susan Lucci, who has played the immortal Erica Kane for 39 years, through thick and thin, and worse.

Even Lucci had to take a pay cut.

"Everyone has pitched in, and everyone has stepped up to the plate, and we've tightened where we can," said Lucci. "I've felt it in a couple of ways, there's some missing faces on the studio floor, and that's sad because we really are an ensemble here, from top to bottom, not just the company of actors but the crew, very much so."

That sense of company spirit was on full display on a recent walk-through of the "All My Children" set.

"This is like a typical day here at "AMC," said Cameron Mathison, who plays heartthrob Ryan Lavery. "There are 47 scenes today. That's insane. Anxiety!"

He gestures to an especially eye-catching wardrobe.

"Look at this over here, folks, this is all Erica Kane's! I hope Susan doesn't mind me doing this. Let's see what we got here."

He held up a pair of striking leopard-print pants.

"I mean, come on. Do these say Erica Kane or what?!"

The roving Mathison is drawn to an important piece on any daytime television set: the bed.

How many women has Ryan Lavery lured there?

"Uh, easily four."

Four ... at different ... times?

"Easy, now!"

Crafting story lines that may stretch the imagination are part of keeping an audience.

"It helps remind the audience that something's going on," said Valentini. "We never have reruns, so you are never going to hear that there is the season premiere of 'One Life to Live,' we just continue going on. So it's good to have something fresh going on."

Character Erica Kane on "All My Children" has been married 10 times. And this past year, the legendary soap employed the use of CGI technology to create a giant tornado with Hollywood-type technology.

Soaps' Secret Weapon: Committed Fans

In the end, though, the soaps that brought us Kelly Ripa, Demi Moore, John Stamos and Rick Springfield have a secret weapon, something that transcends dollars and downturns.

They have fans -- deeply devoted, committed fans.

"We are in their living room every single day, they see us every day, it's an ongoing story," Mathison said. "It's not something you have to tune in every week to find out, it's right there for an hour every day in your living room, and if you're home that's a lot of your life, that's a lot of consistency."

And the stories will go on. Which means Erica Kane will almost definitely get married, again ... and divorced, again.

"In a bad economy, that's when the audience really wants to watch something that really helps," Lucci said. "The escape is in some ways instructive, and is also really hopeful, exciting and fun."

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"I don't know that we will see that in daytime anymore, those kinds of numbers," said Hanan Carruthers. "There is certainly that kind of commitment. There is certainly the interest. But people are recording, or they are reading about it, or they are looking at it streaming online."

Why not just admit the entire TV industry is run by outdated fools? She acknowledges that people are watching soaps through other venues, but also admits that the networks just refuse to count them.

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People will never be too busy to be entertained.

If you have little and grown boys playing World of Warcraft 365 days of the year like their lives depended on it, you can have little and grown girls watching soap operas. Especially now when everyone wants to escape from their struggles because of the recession.

People don't watch anymore because the stories suck. It angers me that TPTB continue to point all the blame on everyone else but themselves.

Go back to the [!@#$%^&*] drawing board and you'll find your viewers again.

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It's the Great Recession.

"It is hitting Pine Valley, we are not unique," said Julie Hanan Carruthers, the show's executive producer.

Breaking a budget to the point where you're almost canceled and your lead actress has to keep taking pay cuts to keep you on the air is unique. It's also something to be ashamed of.

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People will never be too busy to be entertained.

If you have little and grown boys playing World of Warcraft 365 days of the year like their lives depended on it, you can have little and grown girls watching soap operas. Especially now when everyone wants to escape from their struggles because of the recession.

People don't watch anymore because the stories suck. It angers me that TPTB continue to point all the blame on everyone else but themselves.

Go back to the [!@#$%^&*] drawing board and you'll find your viewers again.

Hey, girls play WOW too. :D

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"One of the things that I love is actually using real products, because it validates and authenticates our fictitious Pine Valley," said Hanan Carruthers. "Our challenge, and my goal, is that when we do it, it happens in a very natural and organic way, so that we aren't going back to the days of holding up the soap box, actually doing a commercial in the middle of the show."

Really? Best Week Ever begs to differ.

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009/02/05/for-...ime-tv-history/

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Really? Best Week Ever begs to differ.

http://www.bestweekever.tv/2009/02/05/for-...ime-tv-history/

Yeah, I don't think the PP I've seen so far on soaps have been all that natural. However, I think soaps do need to take advantage of product placement. Coke signs and paper cups at Kelly's (GH) or have one of the characters ask another out on a date to see (insert date movie title) type stuff. I really believe it needs to happen for soaps to survive , but they need to learn how to make it more seamless than it has been in the past. I'm sure that's hard though because of pressure from the advertisers involved.

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omg you mean like on Days of Our Lives when the girls were talking bout their monthly visit from a friend and stephanie pulled out midol.or whatever it is lol

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Why not just admit the entire TV industry is run by outdated fools? She acknowledges that people are watching soaps through other venues, but also admits that the networks just refuse to count them.

They're counting them...at least on the legal streams and soapnet...but they haven't fully figured out how to monetize them.

I think I see where it is headed.

Yesterday, Roger Newcomb had a link to the latest bit about cable companies METERING internet usage. So, my monthly cable bill will be related to how much uploading and downloading I do.

Once we meter downloads, we're counting consumption.

Then, like they do with VHS blank tape sales, and so forth, a PORTION of that revenue can go back to the studios in whatever way they do that.

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I saw that bandwidth article.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/2...g_Is_Coming.php

Friedman emphasized that they were not out to inhibit content but to insure quality service for their customers, saying he wasn't sure Time Warner had done a very good job of explaining that.

Time Warner did try to explain that, but most people don't buy it, because they haven't said anything beyond, "The Internet is going to run out because of greedy people, so pay us money." It was a member of Congress who stopped Time Warner's plans, for now. If Time Warner can't even explain to him, then apparently the plan has some big flaws.

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I think it's pretty brave and open of ABC News to talk about how its network's soaps are affected by this recession.

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They're counting them...at least on the legal streams and soapnet...but they haven't fully figured out how to monetize them.

Monetize WHAT dude?! They already have figured out how to make money from legal streams and SOAPnet. If these shows weren't making money online, the networks wouldn't put them on different platforms and pimp them the way they do, especially Y&R which is pretty much on every flash site but xTube.

The WGA and other unions ended up getting their arm Ike Turner twisted into settling for this crappy 14-day free promotion crap. The networks and studios are making money from this. And they are making money in a way where they could decide how many views a show is getting and divide that amongst everyone. They just want a head start in screwing the talent over, the exact same way talent got screwed during the home movie market boom(which caused the six month 1988 strike).

After all, there are ads there every time we watch legal streaming content. So networks are "monetizing." They are just saying that to save face and to make the general public and union members with a sense of naivete believe that it's still "a new technology that we're not making money from"

And I am SURE they know how many people are watching their shows online. YouTube even has viewcounts at the bottom of their page. The networks are making money, even if it is a small amount.

Yesterday, Roger Newcomb had a link to the latest bit about cable companies METERING internet usage. So, my monthly cable bill will be related to how much uploading and downloading I do.

And you will still have internet/tech geeks who will want to play WOW and other games at a certain speed without being charged over $1000 a month for it. The free market reigns. There's no way an internet company will stay in business if they charge by the amount of uploading and downloading someone does, like an electric bill or water bill. That's like charging someone for the amount of cable TV they watch.

But, per usual, I've digressed.

I think it's pretty brave and open of ABC News to talk about how its network's soaps are affected by this recession.

Well, let's talk about something, anything but the DAMN swine flu.

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