Y&R: Week of February 16, 2009

[TheRedWarrior]

Anyways I'm watching yesterday's episode right now and it's great as expected. Can't wait to see Sharon and Billy. God Billy why are you being so dumb....

[DaytimeFan]

OK folks, AGAIN, if you see a post by a user who constantly irritates you, you click onto their profile, then under Options click Ignore User, once you've done that click Update Ignore User List.

VOILA. You won't EVER have to read another post by a poster who irritates you.

It's MAGIC.

[Cheap21]

Um, why was my post blacked out?

[TheRedWarrior]

The problem with that is that I feel like 99% of the people who post here (including Turner and dmarex) make great posts regarding Y&R and have interesting insights as well as information regarding the show, cast, storylines, etc. And if someone were to take your advice well pretty soon you'd be seeing only 2 or 3 people's post within a month or so I'm betting.

Especially if you nitpick about every little thing that "irritates" you.

So for my part I'm not going to ignore anyone cuz I'd be depriving myself of a variety of viewpoints that I think should be discussed and deserve to be heard/seen.

@ Cheap21

Maybe it's a spoiler? I have no idea though since I'm catching up on Y&R on CBS's website...

@ y&R fan

Thanks. I'm not taking sides here but it seems strange to point out someone's posting habits and try to say that they always post about a certain character/actress when it's 100% obvious/clear that you do the exact same thing....just with a different actor. It's like the pot calling the kettle black if you want to use a cliche...lol.

[Shylock]

Y&R has some real potential gold in this show now with Cane and Billy, that some on here don't even realize it. I don't want Cane and Lily to be backburner'd, because they have this quality that makes many want to hate them. They're obnoxious, overbearing and self-righteous.

Cane is very easy to hate and he makes it even easier when he gets self-righteous and indignant. Billy's flawed, but still sympathetic in ways and you could even develop Chloe further along this way. They need to turn Cane and Lily into the antagonists on this show. They can keep the gray area, but still. For some reason, I keep finding myself wanting to see Billy and Cane go at it. Whether verbally or physically. And if they could just keep on building tension between them, releasing a little and then constantly adding it. They could start it by having Cane get custody of Cordy, divorcing Chloe and marrying Lily. And they both raise him, whilst Billy and Chloe have limited visitation or whatever. Keep Cane/Lily on the winning side of this, while giving Chloe/Billy little victories here and there. They can have Cane be overcome by jealousy and anger at his brother, so much so that he, every now and then, actually starts doing bad things to sabotage and hurt his brother and ex-wife. Then you have Lily find out about it, which causes tension between the two and leaves something open for Billy and Chloe to eventually regain custody of their daughter. All the while, having Billy and Chloe grow closer through the ordeal. Then, after the whole "jill and kat aren't really related" thing comes out and allows it, you can throw Mac back into the mix. Billy and Chloe could be together or close to it, Mac could be back and available, and Cane (who I'd probably break with Lily by now) could go after Mac just like Billy went after Lily. You could then forge the triangle out of that.

Blah blah.

Armchair writing. But I still think there's much $$$ in them pitting the Self Righteous Duo of Cane and Lily against the Sinful, Yet Sympathetic duo of Billy and Chloe. They just need to put the former in the role of villains. Not so much Lily as I would Cane though. This Brother versus Brother thing could work, but only if they can turn up the volume on Cane as he is right now. The best villains are the ones who believe they're in the right, even if they really aren't. Just have him become obsessed with showing how much better he is than his brother. Maybe you could add to it that it's fueled by some sort of inadequacy complex and build on it and add to it. He's gone from bartender to businessman, finds his mother. Only to have his job taken by his brother, the love of his life as well, he learns the baby is really his brother's. Currently he'd take the baby away from them. Then you start the out and out feuding, up until he does something to Billy/Chloe that sabotages their chances at getting their kid back that gets discovered and backfires on him. He'd lose the kid, Lily as well (I wouldn't have her go along with it and it'd break them up), etc. Then you have him go after Mac to try and get one over on Billy, and he fails because he can't get it up and finds out he actually has ED. So he'd go more and more into a downward spiral laden with him taking actions that compensate for what he doesn't have. Either as a person, romantically or just as a man. It'd be great.

[Cheap21]

I dont get that since its something that aired today and this whole thread is about discussion about the daily episodes for this week

[TheRedWarrior]

Umm yeah as much as I can't stand Chloe I can't stand Esther being sad even more so for now I hope she lives....

Just ship her off to Europe with Cane where she can be a fashionista b*tch over there....lol.

[Toups]

My bad, Cheap.

And I thought that was the first time we found that out. Shows how much I was paying attention in yesterday's Canadian episode. LOL

[TheRedWarrior]

"Don't ever talk to me like that again...." - Victor Newman

:o :o :o :o

I got chills when he said that. It came out of NOWHERE. I swear I thought he was gonna say something funny or heartwarming but oh no...not TGVN. Just cold as ice he tells his delivers a warning that would scare the crap out of me any day of the week if I were in his shoes.

Whoever is writing the dialogue for Y&R should get a raise cuz there's nothing that beats this.

And does Jack have kids? He mentioned how he has 2 kids that he rarely speaks too....the only one I can recall is KYLE. That's the one he had with Diane Jenkins right?

Who's the 2nd child?

[classicmoment]

I can't help the feeling that the whole GK debacle really tipped the scale in Paul's favor. I mean what else are you going to write after the prior writers went with this whole cheap stolen identity route? The writers hands will then be forced cause they would have to follow up, I would want to avoid that too.

[Cheap21]

Keemo. He fathered him with a woman he slept with while in Vietnam

[TheRedWarrior]

Thanks for replying Cheap!

So is Keemo older than Kyle I'm guessing? And was it a big secret at the time or did everyone know right away?

I am fasicinated by this whole situation because I am comparing Jack to Victor. While Victor is absolutely nuts and a control freak his children for the most love him deep down and have very close relationships with him. Victoria and Nick especially. Abby is getting there of course and Adam is starting to form what I think is a love/hate relationship with his father.

On the other hand Jack is clearly the more lovable and more easy going of the 2 yet we hardly see or hear of his kids. Plus we learn that he's not that close to them. Interesting and a great detail that the writers pointed out today in Wednesday's episode.

OMFG Sharon you klepto loser...

[classicmoment]

This show seems to need Jack to be obsessed with VICTOR so to characterize him too much further from that will be overdoing it. The funny thing is though they can both be scoundrels, I prefer JACK out of the two because he at least has funny, intelligent, most times dead on sense of humor

[Ann_SS]

I'm liking wild spiraling out of control Sharon. It has been a while since she made an appearance.

[Dan]

I love this idea and you are correct: pitting Chloe/Billy vs. Cane/Lily could be quite fun. Will it happen? Yes. But unlike your suggestion, it will be COMPLETELY unintentional, lol. But oh well. I'll take what I can get.

The only time Goddard really comes alive is when he is butting heads with Miller or Hendrickson. Khalil? Not so much, as you said in your post. But this could be great fun, so to completely backburner them might not be quite the right answer.