The Politics Thread

[Liberty City]

Püssy.

[MichaelGL]

Trump is avoiding a third debate like he avoided the draft. Beautiful. 

[Vee]

If it stands (which I am not convinced it will) it's a win for Harris too. It would be almost impossible to crush him with the same impact twice - the media would hyper-grade on a curve to try to recreate some sort of comeback narrative.

Edited September 12, 2024 by Vee

[DramatistDreamer]

 

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[janea4old]

 

[j swift]

I've been thinking a lot about this today, and I agree. 

Eating dogs and cats sounds absurd and funny at first.  Then, you realize he is taking a page out of the basic racist playbook.  In order to enrage his base, he is using xenophobia against Haitian immigrants to distract people into voting against their best interests.  I mean, it is easy to see the similarities between this and Willie Horton, or any number of disenfranchised citizens who've been used for political gain. 

And while we all make jokes, we forget that this is exactly what worked in prior generations when fascists have tried to gain control of governments.  We can't let our guard down and ever underestimate this man or the forces that want him to win.  They have packed the courts, and they've packed local election boards.  And they don't care that we all laugh at him.

Edited September 13, 2024 by j swift

[DRW50]

I feel like the whole thing is a trap a lot of Democrats have fallen into. I don't mean debunking the smears and lies - it's only right to push back - I mean the memes and jokes, doing comic remixes of Trump, and a clip I saw earlier today of people at a Walz rally in Grand Rapids chanting "we don't eat cats." Given how high the stakes are for this election it's disappointing to see that type of response.

Republicans are very good at flooding the zone. With the time spent on these "jokes," and on combating the racism and xenophobia on display, and the usual conspiracies about ear pieces, Trump is protected through the brief bump that the winner can get from a debate.

I was referring to the tweet which made sure we knew Republican evildoers were plotting for Harris. I'm not going to say a good word about either of those men, but it feels very deliberate. 

The Taibbi article is fine (even though I'm not a Chait fan, to say the least), but again the framing of the article feels very pointed in another direction.

They are throwing out every racist smear they can find. Here, and against Harris, and against Linsey Davis (as *gasp* they were in the same sorority). As this is generally a racist country, they know what sticks.

[janea4old]

 

 

Oh!  I see now.  NewYork magazine's Intelligencer ("nymag.com/intelligencer") 
had two tweets/articles posted less than 2 hours apart.


I thought you meant this one with Chait's piece:

 

 

but actually you were referring to this one --
which was within a post on this thread, slightly above your comment,
and I had missed it:

Edited September 13, 2024 by janea4old

[janea4old]

yes I agree that both feel deliberate in their framing

[Vee]

They're trying so hard, but nothing is sticking outside of the dead-ends.

[Vee]

A good WaPo piece from David Ignatius re: Harris in the Situation Room as VP. (Apparently not paywalled, at least for me)

 

[Vee]