The Politics Thread

[Vee]

 

[Vee]

Kamala just threaded the needle on both Israel and Gaza very explicitly and very well. No, it won't move the deadenders who suddenly demanded a convention slot yesterday after 1968 II flopped, but it will move the base that has sympathy for Palestinians as well as Israeli citizens.

[Toups]

What a speech by Harris! Please America, elect this woman to be President!

[Vee]

Trump called Fox ranting and raving, got cut off. I believe he is now calling Newsmax.

 

 

[Wendy]

TwitX is having a field day, because all DonOLD did, during Harris' speech, was complain that Coach Walz was not a coach but an assistant coach...

...and then asked, "Where's Hunter?"

DonOLD SO wishes Joe was still his opponent.

So, of course, TwitX has said Hunter is with Melania, among other epic responses. LOL! He is SO melting down, so those calls are the cherry on top.

 

[Vee]

 

 

[I Am A Swede]

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[DramatistDreamer]

^^Ahaha! That was perfect! @Wendy

 

[j swift]

Why does Oprah keep insisting that she's an independent?

I don't doubt that she registered as an independent because she's a boomer who was raised on the ethos of voting for the person and not the party.

But, clearly she's a Democrat, and if she's going to endorse VP Harris, she needs to remind people to vote for the down ticket Dems as well if we are going to overtake the congress and maintain the senate. 

It is not as if she has to remain neutral to maintain a mainstream audience anymore.  So, get on board Oprah.  We need more billionaires who care less about taxes than civil rights.

Edited August 23, 2024 by j swift

[I Am A Swede]

This is absolutely insane. I could not believe my eyes when I saw some of these clips....

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[DramatistDreamer]

Regardless of how Oprah was raised (and her being from Mississippi, I doubt she was told to vote for individual rather than party), she’s in the billionaire class and most of them have this idea that they function independently (psst, they do not). In the past, Oprah has had vehement disagreements with those who have cited luck in her success. She cites hard work and being good at what she does over chance. Honey, it’s both, I say. Many wealthy people cite har work and pluck (and sometimes even talent) as the key to their success, but are hard pressed to admit that someone had to give them that initial chance, even if by chance, we mean an opportunity or investment/seed money or even a valuable piece of advice on how to begin.

While it’s obvious to me and you and likely half of America that Oprah clearly votes Democratic at the national level, she may be sliding in references to voting for both parties on the state legislative and municipal levels just so she can take the part of an “independent” and speak to and try to convince independent voters to vote for VP Harris. Those are the voters that most Dems are constantly being told we have to convince, no? 
Hopefully some other prominent person can urge voters to vote for Democrats down ballot so as to give a President Harris the Democratic majority in Congress. Maybe MacKenzie Scott, she’s a billionaire too, no? We shouldn’t leave Oprah to do all the work of convincing voters and given the press surrounding Scott’s recent philanthropic contributions, I would say she’s pretty well known too now.

At this point, MacKenzie Scott’s message would be disseminated every bit as quickly as any message from Oprah. She should also dig in and do the work.

Edited August 23, 2024 by DramatistDreamer

[marceline]

Personally I think it's because she's behind enemy lines. She a billionaire. A Black billionaire.

People can claim it's about her money but money is important. She sent hundreds of men to Morehouse. People want to blame her for Drs. Oz and Phil but she deserves credit for helping to create Black doctors.

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[Vee]

RFK has of course dropped out and endorsed Trump. I'm sure this tidal wave of charisma will be a massive boon to his campaign.

JFC. No notes.

[Khan]

What, if any, effect will RFK's exit have on the race?

[Vee]

Hilariously, CNN, CSPAN, Newsmax and Fox all cut away from both Trump and RFK's rambling speeches mid-stream today before they finished.

Based on recent polling with him in or out of the race, it will actually hurt Trump. RFK was becoming a permission slip for stupid people to not have to vote for the Dem while avoiding Trump.

 

Edited August 23, 2024 by Vee