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14 hours ago, Khan said:

I agree.  They're just posturing for the sake of posturing.  In the end, they either will vote third party or (more likely) sit it out.

On a related note: good ol' reliable Nina Turner is warning Kamala Harris that she will lose progressives if she picks Josh Shapiro for her VP.  This, of course, begs the question: who da fuq even LISTENS to Nina Turner anymore?

The dead enders have already started, although they have much less influence than they had in 2020 and 2016 (and there is no viable third-party option for the left unless they want to turn to Stein). A great deal of that fragment of the left are never voting for Harris, they are just waiting for the talking points as to why.

There are a lot of issues I worry about with Shapiro as the choice, but the biggest is that I'm afraid it would indicate a fear-based pick from the heart of DC, some of the same mindset that doomed Hillary in 2016. Trump is going around berating her as hating Jews, there's no shortage of criticism about whether she is supportive enough of Israel and Netanyahu - given Shapiro's comments the pick will look defensive...and there's other baggage surrounding him too, like the claims against his former aide.  

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I can see either side on Shapiro. I just don't think the downsides are that significant with the general public vs. the very online. He's tough, projects non-crazy left and he locks down PA. I don't think it's about fear. People on Twitter catastrophize about a pretty normal politician because there's always gotta be something.

Meanwhile:

 

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2 hours ago, Vee said:

I think Josh Marshall is correct, but what a contrast reading his thoughts in reply to Benjy Sarlin painstakingly working to find and spread a palatable message for Trump's racism and bile. Another reminder of just how eager the Beltway has been to get to tear Harris down on a topic they see as a weakness for her. 

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I don't think Sarlin is as bad as some, but like many Beltway journos he is thinking of it too much as sportsbro game theory transposed onto politics vs. what it simply is: A vile smear spat out by a flailing candidate who is feeling the heat.

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The reporter who gushed about Trump's 'serene, existential' metamorphosis post-shooting is back with some Trumpworld palace gossip (as always, run it through archive.is):

Good luck with this: 

 

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I'm hoping Peter Thiel's influence on JD Vance, including his quarter billion dollar investment in border security for his company Palantir, which is the motivation for all of Trump's racist immigration policies, gets more traction.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/07/28/jd-vance-peter-thiel-donors-big-tech-trump-vp/

“WE HAVE A FORMER TECH VC IN THE WHITE HOUSE GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH BABY,” Delian Asparouhov, a partner at Thiel’s Founder’s Fund, wrote on X after the announcement of Vance’s nomination.

Although, we all know Trump's been a self-interested racist for years.

 

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Yet, there are folks on both sides who insist Joe Biden is too feeble to run again or even remain in office.

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