The Politics Thread

[Vee]

[DramatistDreamer]

Since Trump got into office, shady lawyers have certainly been getting time in the spotlight: Michael Cohen, Rudy Giuliani, Michael Avenatti, Lanny Davis...

[Khan]

Trump has truly brought us back to the 1980's.

 

It always comes down to two things: sex, and money; and either together or separately, both have toppled great (and not-so-great) leaders since the beginning.

 

Yep.

Edited December 12, 2018 by Khan

[marceline]

And the hits just keep on coming.

 

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by marceline

[DramatistDreamer]

[Juliajms]

He's right about this.  There was no reason to rip that child from her arms.  They could have resolved this issue so many different ways before that power play happened.

 

[DramatistDreamer]

Jazmine Headley had been waiting for vouchers for childcare for four hours, without a chair, so she sat on the floor.  Could no one have found a folding chair??

It is a lack of common sense and lack of humanity in regards to how she and her child were mistreated.  

 

Were it not for the bystander who took video of the whole thing, I doubt any of us would know where this woman would've ended up.  Or her child, for that matter.

 

 

 

Much like Margaret Thatcher, who I believe was the last PM to face a No Confidence Vote by her own party, Theresa May wins this one.  I wonder what the repercussions will be for the Tories.  Perhaps an even weaker party?

 

Edited December 12, 2018 by DramatistDreamer

[DramatistDreamer]

[DRW50]

 

The threshold was much tougher for Thatcher than for May, as they changed the rules after Thatcher's time as PM. 

 

Apparently May implied that she would not run for another term as PM, so that may have made some in her party who are sick of her decide to support her. Given how craven she is I wonder if she will keep her word. 

 

The media is in the tank for the Tories and have repeatedly tried to spin her never-ending can-kicking and dithering as signs of being a strong woman. 

[DramatistDreamer]

 

May is awful and inept but with a vulture party like the Tories, she's far from the worst.  Besides, the fact that no one seems to have a clue as to how to proceed with Brexit, it likely, it was the threat of ending up with Boris Johnson or Michael Gove that helped to steer votes to keep May in her position.  There are several other Tories who no one wants near the office of PM, who'd beat her by a country mile in a contest for the politician who garners the most contempt of the British people.

 

[Vee]

Not exactly a left wing pundit:

 

 

[DRW50]

 

I think Johnson is pretty much done. Gove is more of a question - he's glomming onto May now which might help him.

 

There are people objectively worse than May, but I think she has enabled them to get them this far, so it's a very warped chicken and egg syndrome.

[DramatistDreamer]

For the past five years, I've been hoping that Johnson would go away but somehow he continues to pop up, so I'll be a doubting Thomas until I'm sure to see the back of him. 

 

Gove is beneath contempt.  I doubt his sycophantic gestures are fooling anyone. Despite all the posturing and jockeying within the Tory party, no one wants the job of trying to piece together the mess that is Brexit.  

 

I'm more intrigued to see how Scotland and Northern Ireland's next moves are.  

[DramatistDreamer]

[marceline]

I wonder when it's going to sink in that the Republican party is nothing more than a criminal enterprise and an arm of a global attempt to disrupt democracy around the world.

Edited December 13, 2018 by marceline