13 minutes ago, marceline said:

 

Yeah, somebody I follow on Twitter (and subsequently have muted) keeps swearing up and down that the Dems are driving never-Trumpers back to the GOP. The truth is that never-Trumpers are still Republicans. They like the policies. They just want them with a little more finesse.

 

Exactly. Remember how the Tea Party were so new and different from your usual Republicans? And then they turned out to be the same (only even more insane)?

 

It's just the same rotting fruitcake with different, ever-cheaper wrapping paper. 

I feel so old seeing this horrible, horrible era already pushed into movies.

 

 

W did not deserve to have Sam Rockwell playing him.

 

and I feel a bit ashamed for finding him hot even in that role...

I just have no interest in reliving that era when things are even worse now - nor do I have any morbid interest in how Christian Bale has once again mutated his body to do it.

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

I just have no interest in reliving that era when things are even worse now - nor do I have any morbid interest in how Christian Bale has once again mutated his body to do it.

  Seriously, no thanks to any of it.

14 minutes ago, Vee said:

I just have no interest in reliving that era when things are even worse now - nor do I have any morbid interest in how Christian Bale has once again mutated his body to do it.

 

The best part to me was the song. It's terrific. 

 

I will say going from reminders of that era to my phone being corrupted by you know who was incredibly depressing synergy.

we've achieved breakthrough when an NBC News company tweet casually flags WH whataboutism. https://t.co/I7M1JMc99l

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) October 3, 2018

 

I will say this: The trailer is great, and Adam McKay's The Big Short was exceptional, smart, angry work in this vein. So okay, I'll go.

Welp:

 

 

Here’s a twist: Lindsey Graham suggests to @tedbarrettcnn that McConnell should consider delaying Kavanaugh vote if the three GOP senators “have any follow-on that’s reasonable. We’ve waited this long. I want to do it right. We should have probably done this several weeks ago.”

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 3, 2018

Susan Collins continues to avoid answering reporter questions about Kavanaugh, dashes on the floor and darts onto an awaiting senators-only after votes - this after Capitol Police cleared her hallway to prevent stakeouts outside her office, an aggressive move in a public hallway

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 3, 2018

It means - at this point they do NOT HAVE THE VOTES.

They still don't have the votes.

 

Jinx!

Edited October 3, 20187 yr by Vee

If this goes on much longer I think they will pause and then use this as a GOTV tool to motivate extremists and bigots and woman-haters. 

 

It's probably what their best move would have been all along.

1 minute ago, Vee said:

They still don't have the votes.

 

Jinx!

lol

 

I read and I can't find it that some of Judge's testimony is damaging. Take that for what it's worth  it doesn't really mean anything

 

But Collins was very specific a few days back about hearing from Ramirez and they are not interviewing any of the people who might be able to verify or at least support parts of her story.

5 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

If this goes on much longer I think they will pause and then use this as a GOTV tool to motivate extremists and bigots and woman-haters. 

 

It's probably what their best move would have been all along.

 

I agree. Because as it stands now there is more vile dirt on Kavanaugh coming out by the hour - it's endless, I'm kind of shocked. Easier to use him as a martyr to the right wing base than to try and confirm him. IMO if they still don't have the votes after his enraged Trumpian showstopper on Thursday, they'll never get them.

Edited October 3, 20187 yr by Vee

18 minutes ago, Vee said:

 

I agree. Because as it stands now there is more vile dirt on Kavanaugh coming out by the hour - it's endless, I'm kind of shocked. Easier to use him as a martyr to the right wing base than to try and confirm him. IMO if they still don't have the votes after his enraged Trumpian showstopper on Thursday, they'll never get them.

 

I read that Trump's favorite Faux and Friends show was chiding him about the way he spoke about Ford at his last rally, so I wonder if that may have buried this in the Senate even further.

2 hours ago, Vee said:

Because as it stands now there is more vile dirt on Kavanaugh coming out by the hour - it's endless, I'm kind of shocked. 

 

Yet, Kav and his defenders claim all this investigating is unnecessary, because Kav has had to undergo six background checks in the past and not once had he been flagged.

 

And really, the stuff that I've read (and IDK, it's been ten minutes, so there's probably a bunch more that I haven't read) isn't bad in and of itself.  But Kav MADE it bad, or worse, when he chose to lie about, mislead everyone and/or cover up everything.  If he had just copped to the assaults while admitting everything else was accurate, this might have blown over for him.

 

1 hour ago, DRW50 said:

I read that Trump's favorite Faux and Friends show was chiding him about the way he spoke about Ford at his last rally, so I wonder if that may have buried this in the Senate even further.

 

If F&F actually had the balls to criticize Trump, then yeah, I'd say so.  No one has the power to sway Trump's opinion about anyone or anything EXCEPT Faux News...which is just so [!@#$%^&*] sad.

Edited October 3, 20187 yr by Khan

 

A massive coalition of U.S. Christian churches attended by 40 million people wants Brett Kavanaugh to withdraw his Supreme Court nomination. https://t.co/FBBu9Jk56D

— The Associated Press (@AP) October 3, 2018