Bannon: The Trump Presidency Is "Over"

 

(But, he vows, he will "make something" out of it.)

 

My take: with Bannon gone, the GOP probably thinks they COULD moderate Trump.  They'll learn quickly, however, no matter how many toys you take away from him or threaten to take away, Trump is still Trump.

 

One more:

 

Conservatives React With Fury to Bannon's Departure

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This week: Several Kennedy Center winners said they'll skip White House trip.

Today: Trump says he'll skip Kennedy Center honors itself. pic.twitter.com/yHEra4Hhh8

— Dan Diamond (@ddiamond) August 19, 2017

Regarding Tina Fey, I'll be the odd man out and say I enjoyed her skit. I think it was less about telling people not to protest and more about trying to find a way to deal with the hopelessness and outrage of seeing what's happening around us. Plus she's right about the fact that the Nazis crave confrontation. Before Charlottesville there was a Nazi rally somewhere that lasted 45 minutes because everyone just treated them like crazy old men. As much as some hate to hear it, the best response to these rallies is crickets at the time and place they happen then a counter rally somewhere else.

 

For once, Trump did the right thing by choosing to skip the Kennedy Center Honors.  (Enjoy my praise, Donny, because we KNOW it won't last.)  But why is he announcing in AUGUST that he won't be attending a gala in DECEMBER?

14 minutes ago, Khan said:

For once, Trump did the right thing by choosing to skip the Kennedy Center Honors.  (Enjoy my praise, Donny, because we KNOW it won't last.)  But why is he announcing in AUGUST that he won't be attending a gala in DECEMBER?

 

Because the artists have been dropping out and you know that Donnie always wants to look like he was the one who did the rejecting or...

 

Because he's planning to resign and knows he won't be in office by then. 

It's probably the former.

I don't know if anyone saw this, but Stephanie Ruhle and Ari Velshi taking a Trump advisor to task about jobs numbers, stock market, business councils etc. I have to laugh. Velshi was right. Do any of these people actually get briefed when they appear on TV with folks like this to know when their speaking with? Both of these people have years in the financial industry and are business correspondents. This is not Jake Tapper or Chuck Todd. They actually know what they are talking about in this particular instance. The one who sounds misinformed is the Trumper. He does the same as all the surrogates. pivots. In this case his pivoting made him look worse because Ruhle and Velshi actually know more on all the pivot points than  he does also. Sad.

 

 

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1 hour ago, marceline said:

Regarding Tina Fey, I'll be the odd man out and say I enjoyed her skit. I think it was less about telling people not to protest and more about trying to find a way to deal with the hopelessness and outrage of seeing what's happening around us. Plus she's right about the fact that the Nazis crave confrontation. Before Charlottesville there was a Nazi rally somewhere that lasted 45 minutes because everyone just treated them like crazy old men. As much as some hate to hear it, the best response to these rallies is crickets at the time and place they happen then a counter rally somewhere else.

 

Now that I've had a little distance from the initial incident, I'll agree with that for now.  It's not that I'm even against Nazi/KKK punching. I'll admit it, I don't care. It's just that I don't think it will stop them. I'm all for doxing though.

 

I wish I had a better sense of the big picture.  Are these groups really managing to recruit in meaningful numbers or was that rally essentially all they've got?

13 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

I wish I had a better sense of the big picture.  Are these groups really managing to recruit in meaningful numbers or was that rally essentially all they've got?

 

I think one look at the White House answers that question. Donnie wouldn't be in the Oval if it weren't for the primal scream of white supremacy as a response to Obama.

It also helps that we are living in the post-9/11 age, with this country more insular and more afraid than ever before.

1 hour ago, JaneAusten said:

I don't know if anyone saw this, but Stephanie Ruhle and Ari Velshi taking a Trump advisor to task about jobs numbers, stock market, business councils etc. I have to laugh. Velshi was right. Do any of these people actually get briefed when they appear on TV with folks like this to know when their speaking with? Both of these people have years in the financial industry and are business correspondents. This is not Jake Tapper or Chuck Todd. They actually know what they are talking about in this particular instance. The one who sounds misinformed is the Trumper. He does the same as all the surrogates. pivots. In this case his pivoting made him look worse because Ruhle and Velshi actually know more on all the pivot points than  he does also. Sad.

 

 

 

I think one of my friends posted this on her FB page.

 

IDK, perhaps this is true on both sides of the political aisle, but what annoys me most is how "Trumpers" fall back on rhetoric when they can't back it up with facts or can't really answer the question.  I'm not saying they should just throw up their hands and say, "You got us."  But, c'mon, even your high school debate teams know that there are ALWAYS facts out there that can support this-or-that argument, no matter how flimsy those facts or your argument might be.

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I think Tina Fey(and her buddy Amy Poehler) to be very overrated

Boston "Free Speech" Rally Ends Early

 

Apparently, the rally ended before any of the scheduled speeches?

15 minutes ago, Khan said:

Boston "Free Speech" Rally Ends Early

 

Apparently, the rally ended before any of the scheduled speeches?

Apparently many of the scheduled speakers chickened out. So sad.

 

I left home and had some errands to run this AM and turned on MSNBC for a second. Who is this dumb idiot woman they have on today? She follows Joy Reid.The questions from some of these so called news people are no better on MSNBC and CNN then they are on Fox. Actually worse. I can't believe how they rolled out Joy Reid onto all the high profile Sunday shows - on Meet the Press for example but she doesn't qualify for a daily show. Yeah we know why. She'd do a better on Meet the Press than Todd would. She's certainly more well read and intelligent.

23 hours ago, MichaelGL said:

Yeah, I wasn't even aware there were politicians like that in Australia. Hopefully you guys are smarter than us when it comes to this fool. 

 

We have a few of them but they're usually kept to the fringes and out of the main parties. She's the most aggressive and has lasted the longest, mostly because of these stupid stunts and latching onto whatever the "fear" of the moment is (in the 90s it was Asians, then it was feminists, now it's Islam). She was in the Liberal Party (the Australian conservative party) for a while but then she just got too nuts for them and they threw her out her. Now she has her own party and just does [!@#$%^&*] like this. She doesn't care about representing Australia, she just wants to be on the telly and peddle nonsense.

 

22 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

The Liberal party in Australia (isn't it the Liberal party...or is that wrong?) dumped their Trump-esque PM, Tony Abbott, so they're much smarter than the GOP is. 

 

Yes it's the Liberal Party. Here the Liberal Party is the conservative party (along with the various smaller conservative parties) and the Labor Party is the democratic socialist (I guess that'd be the Democrats in America) along with the Greens. 

 

The Liberals did dump Abbott for Turnbull. He's not great or anything but he's definitely better than Tony Abbott.