Frankly, it doesn't matter when or even if Bannon leaves.  One, the damage has been done; and two, Trump doesn't need Bannon to make him racist.  As his inglorious track record proves, Trump is more than enough racist on his own.

Edited August 14, 20178 yr by Khan

34% STILL APPROVE of him?? Should we just call that a ballpark figure of white supremacists in the US?

 

I remember back in the 90s, the Oklahoma City bombing of a public building by white supremacist Timothy McVeigh and his ilk. He was called a terrorist and rightly so. Being a white supremacist alone was pretty much considered beyond the pale by most people. Now, with this presidency, it has been made viable, acceptable, with that false equivalency of "many sides." 

Well, that's what happens when some people, no matter how NOT racist they profess to be, can't take a Black man with a funny-sounding name as their leader.

23 minutes ago, Cat said:

34% STILL APPROVE of him?? Should we just call that a ballpark figure of white supremacists in the US?

 

I remember back in the 90s, the Oklahoma City bombing of a public building by white supremacist Timothy McVeigh and his ilk. He was called a terrorist and rightly so. Being a white supremacist alone was pretty much considered beyond the pale by most people. Now, with this presidency, it has been made viable, acceptable, with that false equivalency of "many sides." 

I don't think that represents the percentage of white supremacists(if we define them as those tiiki carrying nutcases) but there are a hell of a lot of white people willing to turn away and ignore it because it doesn't impact them. Well as I typed this I realize, that in itself is a form of supremacy - or should I say white privilege.

 

 

Oy

 

 

Edited August 14, 20178 yr by JaneAusten

7 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

there are a hell of a lot of white people willing to turn away and ignore it because it doesn't impact them.

 

And to them, I say, "What about the ones it DOES impact?  Does your line of sight extend only as far as your own back and front yards?  Do you not understand that Christianity's most basic tenet is to put others' needs before your own?  Or do you pay about as much lip service to the virtue of selflessness as the illiterate, misogynistic racist you helped put into the WH?"

Edited August 14, 20178 yr by Khan

1 minute ago, Khan said:

 

And to them, I say, "What about the ones it DOES impact?  Does your line of sight extend only as far as your own back and front yards?  Do you not understand that Christianity's most basic tenet is to put others' needs before your own?  Or do you pay about as much lip service to the virtue of selflessness as the illiterate, misogynistic racist you helped put into the WH?"

Oh these same people sit in church every week saying the words but not hearing what they are saying.

12 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

 

 

 

Oh, perfect timing, Mr. President.  [/sarcasm]

 

As usual, marceline's right: we can't count on him to be "more presidential."  It just ain't in him.  So he can keep pulling bullshit like this.  We'll just keep calling him out on it until (God willing) he's no longer in office.

I'm not going to get worked up over Arpaio. This smacks of exactly the kind of reality show hi-jinks he loves to float to keep his base happy.

9 minutes ago, Khan said:

As usual, marceline's right: we can't count on him to be "more presidential."  It just ain't in him.  So he can keep pulling bullshit like this.  We'll just keep calling him out on it until (God willing) he's no longer in office.

Yep. People especially the media need to stop. I read Mark Warner (the senator) saying his statement was presidential. Stop giving this man credit for doing the basics and showing basic decency and compassion. It's not him. People need to stop pretending who and what this man is or pretending he is going to pivot and look elsewhere for leadership. There are good decent leaders in this country and elsewhere.

Edited August 14, 20178 yr by JaneAusten

3 hours ago, marceline said:

 

I go back and forth on that. I'm obviously very political but I have to admit that the non-stop outrage in my social media is grinding away at my soul. I know we can't normalize this but the level of outrage isn't sustainable or healthy. For example, all of these people demanding that Donald renounce white supremacists. What really would be the point of that? He is a white supremacist. He's always been one. His whole campaign and presidency is based on white nationalism. Why are people demanding that he lie to us? It's like the coal miners who refuse to accept that their jobs are gone. People need to stop thinking that the garbage in the White House is capable of decency. He isn't.

I understand.  Everyone copes differently too. I came off as more judgemental then I meant to. It's not that I think it wrong for people to post about other things, it's just strange when I read the feed. This is more true on twitter where I'm a passive observer. Half my feed is these serious articles about all kinds of tragedy and the other half is Y&R.

 

Couldn't agree more about Trump denouncing white supremacy.  Like I said earlier in the thread, these are his people, why would he condemn them, he obviously agrees with them.  He is them.

4 hours ago, DRW50 said:

 

I have to admit I don't use my limited social media platforms to talk about politics because I worry about getting threats. This is the only place, pretty much, that I talk about them.

 

I do realize that what happened there wasn't politics, it was hate and racism, which should transcend politics. I guess I'm just too nervous to want to say anything about anything beyond entertainment stuff.

I understand Carl.  My Facebook feed is very small and consists of people I either know in real life or people I trust.  It's private because I post pictures.  The irony is that in real life I don't put out political signs and such. I probably would, but my husband feels it's too dangerous, so I get where you are coming from.

Trump, just now, calling CNN/@Acosta fake news again, saying "I like real news, not fake news, and you are fake news."

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) August 14, 2017

. @Acosta following up and saying "haven't you spread fake news yourself?" https://t.co/3cmVW9QUuX

— Yashar Ali (@yashar) August 14, 2017

Trump tells CNN's Jim Acosta "You're fake news" and then walks out of the room. https://t.co/R3Eea7wHbo

— Meg Wagner (@megwagner) August 14, 2017

Was not a presser https://t.co/6B6OlhCbCm

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) August 14, 2017

POTUS appears angry and resentful that he had to do the additional statement https://t.co/6OW4titYWI

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) August 14, 2017

Days to hit 61% disapproval (Gallup)

Carter: Never
Reagan: Never
H.W. Bush: Never
Clinton: Never
W. Bush: 1,932
Obama: Never
Trump: 207

— Brian Klaas (@brianklaas) August 14, 2017

20 hours ago, Roman said:

meanwhile, if you want to LAUGH YOUR ASSES OFF....go to Mike Pence's page. It's been hacked and the entire site has the wildest, funniest stuff you've seen. hurry now!!!

Damnit, I probably missed it
LMAO this [!@#$%^&*] got his karma

 

 

2 hours ago, Cat said:

34% STILL APPROVE of him?? Should we just call that a ballpark figure of white supremacists in the US?

 

I remember back in the 90s, the Oklahoma City bombing of a public building by white supremacist Timothy McVeigh and his ilk. He was called a terrorist and rightly so. Being a white supremacist alone was pretty much considered beyond the pale by most people. Now, with this presidency, it has been made viable, acceptable, with that false equivalency of "many sides." 

That same poll has 24% of Latinos approving of him. Not sure what to make of that.

LMAO THE Helen Mirren dragged Ivanka for filth

 

 

22 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

That same poll has 24% of Latinos approving of him. Not sure what to make of that.

 

His supporters live in an alternate universe. They really believe the economy is good because of him. I saw one troll on WaPo who said that his 401K is finally doing well after having lost money for the last eight years. There's no way that's true. That when you can tell these people are lying. It's like I said above, as long as he stays white and male they consider him a success. They didn't vote for his policies so it doesn't matter if they fail.