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Y&R: Week of November 17, 2008

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rhythmchyc, WORD!!! I agree with EVERYTHING that you said! Mark H, you also have some good points. There were alot of fans that was very put off with the student/professor romance; I happened to like it but only because Adrianne and Eyal had great chemistry and it was written correctly at first. Adrianne had chemistry with everyone and If they had the right actress once again; there could be so much potential for this character; she is the future of the Abbott's after all.
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Colleen is more than "pretty interesting".

She is a next-generation Abbott.

She ties in to Brad (who, without her and Abby, is totally marginalized).

She has ALWAYS been Lily's best friend...and actress-hate notwithstanding....Lily is the show's young heroine. So she needs her age-old best friend.

If the writers would ever play it right, Colleen could be a GENUINE threat to Victoria and JT's marriage...because he has transformed into this obedient errand boy since drifting into the Newman orbit.

Written correctly, Colleen and Kevin have a terrific love-hate potential. If Kevin drifts back to the dark side (as he appears to be doing), and if his dark side harms the Abbotts in some way (let's say his complicity in this Glo-Jack scheme to take back Jabot is revealed...and ultimately hurts the Abbotts), Colleen could return to disliking him. Except dislike is not the ONLY emotion. There IS something else.

I don't want to start actress wars. For the most part, I DID NOT like Adrienne Leon. I didn't like the DISGUSTING "sex-with-my-professor" (we call that "unequal relationships" at my university, and professors get fired for it) story. I didn't like that Leon mostly played sulky and pouty.

It changed, though, at the end of Leon's tenure. When she and Kevin grew closer, there was a hot chemistry there that he didn't have with Jana. Lots of potential.

I don't really care who plays Colleen. Any competent actress can play her. But we need the story to once again reflect her importance, her good-bad dualism. She is the child of Brad (dark, secretive, deceptive, sometimes nasty and evil...but with a good side too) and Traci (virtuous, honest, faithful, sweet...but also needy and whiny and prone to maladaptive behavior). In their union, and with her own dark past (the drug use/wild-child days in New York, the "jail bait" story with JT), she has so much potential.

We have seen, with Billy, how the combination of good writing and good casting can rejuvenate a character. They're introducing him slowly...only about 2 days a week. That's what needs to happen for Colleen.

I didn't like Leon either. But she had a weight to her that Tammin doesn't. It would be kinda odd if the writers revisited Colleen and JT. These two are in two completely different orbs on the show now. It'd be like pairing up Cane and Nina lol. I much rather Colleen and Kevin. If Todd could fall in love with Marty in much less capable hands over on OLTL, then Colleen could end up with Kevin. Especially if the actress has all the latent chemistry Kevin and Colleen shared. LML sucked balls but the time Leon and Rikaart in that freezer was golden soap opera.

I just don't see why if Tammin has all these other opportunities at her immediate reach, she'd stay with this show. I mean, it's good to have something to fall back on but why stay? And it seems the writers are still in the rebuilding process. Perhaps concentrating on Colleen at this point in time would be a waste and was another reason why they resolved the Devon/Ana and Colleen/Daniel/Lily story so quickly. They all really had great potential, if spread out as long as this Chloe baby daddy storyline will take to unravel.

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For the most part, I DID NOT like Adrienne Leon. I didn't like the DISGUSTING "sex-with-my-professor" (we call that "unequal relationships" at my university, and professors get fired for it) story. I didn't like that Leon mostly played sulky and pouty.

I don't generally have a problem with the professor/student relationship storyline. In fact, it had great potential. My issue with the Cardigan pairing was that Podell had no chemistry with Mumbles and very little with Sursok. And for that matter, he didn't seem to have any chem with anyone else they tried to pair him with (Heinle, Bloom, Frantz) either.

I didn't like Leon either. But she had a weight to her that Tammin doesn't.

Pun intended? :lol:

(I know that sounded childish but I couldn't NOT say it...)

The bottom line is that, accent issue aside, Sursok does have what it takes to mature Colleen and make her a core character - IF the writers stop ignoring her and IF she sticks around long enough.

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OMG, just stop with the Sursok stuff. She isn't worth comment on at all. Her appearances this month say it all.

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OMG, just stop with the Sursok stuff. She isn't worth comment on at all. Her appearances this month say it all.
I agree, she has had tons of storyline potential and has proven that she can't deliver.

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OMG, just stop with the Sursok stuff. She isn't worth comment on at all.

Are you talking to me specifically? I wish I had a dollar for every time you've attacked me for daring to have an opinion that differs from yours.

Her appearances this month say it all.

As I said before, the reason for her absence this month is because she is doing a side project! What don't you understand about that?

she has had tons of storyline potential

Yeah, right.

and has proven that she can't deliver.

Like you would know.

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No, I'm not talking to you. Overall I wish we'd just stop talking about her. Y&R doesn't deserve it.

And this time I am talking to you---please don't try to raise fights again.

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Contrary to popular opinion, I have never, ever, EVER tried to deliberately start a fight on this board.

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Why was Ashley hugging that skanky backstabber Olivia? She actually forgave her for the crap she pulled off a few years back?

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LOL. You know something folks, the Ignore feature can work wonders.

Yes, if you have the discipline not to "peek" :)

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