I'm going to watch Monday episode on SoapNet so I can see EH/Chloe out act CKLily.

Like that will ever happen.

Like that will ever happen.

It's her opinion, was your response really necessary? She wasn't attacking you or your opinion.

And do we need to get into this f-u-c-k-i-n-g CKLily debate YET AGAIN this week?

It's her opinion, was your response really necessary?

I know it was her opinion. Is it okay if I post mine as well?

And do we need to get into this f-u-c-k-i-n-g CKLily debate YET AGAIN this week?

FWIW, I'm never the one who starts it.

I know it was her opinion. Is it okay if I post mine as well?

You didn't need to post a response to her post to do so. By doing that, it looks as if you're trying to belittle her opinion.

It would be an entirely different ordeal had you simply posted something like, "IMO, CK was great on Monday's episode, she can totally hold her own with the best of them."

And I don't condone people responding to something like that and ridiculing you for saying it.

Bless you!

If you have that era, I've got to ask...because this was a major point in my life

Do you have that 1983 episode where the Abbotts gathered in their living room to meet Madame Mergeron (who was trying to buy Jabot)...and it was revealed to be Dina? Mamie walked in, and her tray of champagne glasses crashed to the floor.

I'll take whatever you've got!

Thanks (and you're welcome MTSRocks)

Unfortunately, I don't have that scene. I *think* I have a later scene, where Jack and Dina discuss this, but I'm not sure. Nevertheless, I will look into it and see if I find something.

You didn't need to post a response to her post to do so. By doing that, it looks as if you're trying to belittle her opinion.

It would be an entirely different ordeal had you simply posted something like, "IMO, CK was great on Monday's episode, she can totally hold her own with the best of them."

And I don't condone people responding to something like that and ridiculing you for saying it.

Alright. Point taken.

I don't like Jess Walton. There, I said it. I find her wooden, stiff and I detest her masculine voice.

I really am indifferent to Jess Walton to be honest.

I didn't see Deborah as Jill, but I loved her as Kate on DOOL and when she was on Melrose Place. Anybody have clips from her Y&R stint?

I loved her as Kate.

and for the record, i think DD is a good actor and i love Brad. hes just underused much like Doug Davidson/Paul

I don't know why I love Jess Walton as Jill; I just do!

Maybe it's because I remember her sweet, strong Kelly on Capitol. and then when she came on Y&R, she blew me away with her fierceness. After Brenda Dickson's attempts at emoting via cue cards (seriously, what happened to Brenda in the 80s? Because in the 70s her Jill was naturalistic and glowed with inner fire), Jess Walton was a breath of fresh air. I also love JW's chemistry with Jeanne Cooper.

MarkH expressed more beautifully than I ever could why the Jill of today resonates (with me at least). Oh, and this:

"You got the rantings of some old alkie who can't get past breakfast without taking a slug off of her flask." Man, I still get goosebumps thinking of her delivery of that line.

I wish JW would do something with her hair, though. The blonde highlights, the spikey do... no. I want a brunette, blown-out, wavy bob. I want the big earings. The red nails. Damn it, I want the hairband back!

P.S.: Don't remember Deborah Adair as Jill, but she was the definitive Kate on Days for me.

I wish JW would do something with her hair, though. The blonde highlights, the spikey do... no. I want a brunette, blown-out, wavy bob. I want the big earings. The red nails. Damn it, I want the hairband back!

So youw ant Jill Abbott to look liek she just walked out of 1992?

please, NO!

So youw ant Jill Abbott to look liek she just walked out of 1992?

please, NO!

LOL, no, not quite. I just want her hair to have a softer cut, more reddish-brown tones. The spikey thing looks ugh.

P.S. Headbands are back in fashion. Just ask Blair Waldorf!

LOL, no, not quite. I just want her hair to have a softer cut, more reddish-brown tones. The spikey thing looks ugh.

P.S. Headbands are back in fashion. Just ask Blair Waldorf!

I think her current style fits her much better than her old one would, but i could see a sholder length cut with soft browns and reddish colors in it. it could work.

and no, they are not. not unless you are a 16yearold spoiled gossip bitch who lives the high social life of NYC's teen set. lol.

however, headscarfs? that is OK.

I think her current style fits her much better than her old one would, but i could see a sholder length cut with soft browns and reddish colors in it. it could work.

and no, they are not. not unless you are a 16yearold spoiled gossip bitch who lives the high social life of NYC's teen set. lol.

however, headscarfs? that is OK.

Thanks for the head's up, Suzuki St. Pierre.

After Brenda Dickson's attempts at emoting via cue cards (seriously, what happened to Brenda in the 80s? Because in the 70s her Jill was naturalistic and glowed with inner fire), Jess Walton was a breath of fresh air. I also love JW's chemistry with Jeanne Cooper.

Brenda is a truly fascinating case. Somewhere between her first departure from Y&R (she had already begun to vamp up) and her return, all the humanity was lost. She became this over-emoting shell, all surface, nothing underneath.

Ironically, it worked for the character. Her Jill married for money, not love (Deborah Adair did something more subtle...it was also money-not-love...except Jill had major father-abandonment issues, and John touched her at that level). So, all of Brenda's vamping and shallowness somehow helped create Jill as the villainness who deserved all the karma coming her way. That was fun to watch, in an Alexis Carrington way.

That is also an outdated portrayal of the vamp...not even gay men like that kind of diva anymore...and so Walton sort of freshened the character and brought her into the "post-Dynasty" era.

But Brenda....it only got worse, of course. "Welcome to My Home" is the culmination of all that narcissism and delusion...and her recent battles over her apartment with her husband, and her INJUDICIOUS battle with her judge...all these things show that she has lost a real perspective on her power, her value, and how to get what she really wants of out life.

Thanks for the head's up, Suzuki St. Pierre.

Anytime.

Tho i am someone who forgets there are other fahsions outhtere aside from the hollywood club scene and the beach set. but i dont mind because well.. where else would i ever go?

After Brenda Dickson's attempts at emoting via cue cards (seriously, what happened to Brenda in the 80s? Because in the 70s her Jill was naturalistic and glowed with inner fire), Jess Walton was a breath of fresh air. I also love JW's chemistry with Jeanne Cooper.

Brenda is a truly fascinating case. Somewhere between her first departure from Y&R (she had already begun to vamp up) and her return, all the humanity was lost. She became this over-emoting shell, all surface, nothing underneath.

Ironically, it worked for the character. Her Jill married for money, not love (Deborah Adair did something more subtle...it was also money-not-love...except Jill had major father-abandonment issues, and John touched her at that level). So, all of Brenda's vamping and shallowness somehow helped create Jill as the villainness who deserved all the karma coming her way. That was fun to watch, in an Alexis Carrington way.

That is also an outdated portrayal of the vamp...not even gay men like that kind of diva anymore...and so Walton sort of freshened the character and brought her into the "post-Dynasty" era.

But Brenda....it only got worse, of course. "Welcome to My Home" is the culmination of all that narcissism and delusion...and her recent battles over her apartment with her husband, and her INJUDICIOUS battle with her judge...all these things show that she has lost a real perspective on her power, her value, and how to get what she really wants of out life.