Maybe one day it will fall out of favor with the starlets. Perhaps this will coincide with my actually being able to afford one.

How much does it cost now? And how long does one have to wait to get it?

Edited August 1, 200817 yr by Sylph

How much does it cost now? And how long does one have to wait to get it?

Don't know. If you are on the 18-month wait list for a hand-made one, there is no price quoted, I believe. You will be billed later.

I'm betting that SF wears what she wants and isn't going to change. Although I think she's lost some weight so I was hoping that might change a little.

As far as too-short skirts for Brooke...I agree, but I think Y&R has some trouble with that kind of stuff as well. My mom was a big Y&R viewer and it always bugged her how the women would have practically nothing on and it was supposedly winter time.

My mom did, too. It's freakin Wisconsin! But the Head of Wardrobe is prob Californian!

As for Brooke, I know she's meant to be sexy. Pushing the envelope in fashion! However, high fashion -- even in California -- is decidedly unsexy. It is the anti-sexy! If you are a woman, it's all about being thin enough (and by thin, I mean no boobs, no butt, no womanliness -- you are a human coat-hanger) to wear outfits that pretentious people call "works of art." And most fashion CEOs are incredibly formal. They dress up, not to titilate horny, aging designers, but to show off. "Look what I'm wearing. Look how expensive it is!"

Edited August 1, 200817 yr by Cat

As for Brooke, I know she's meant to be sexy. Pushing the envelope in fashion! However, high fashion -- even in California -- is decidedly unsexy. It is the anti-sexy! If you are a woman, it's all about being thin enough (and by thin, I mean no boobs, no butt, no womanliness -- you are a human coat-hanger) to wear outfits that pretentious people call "works of art." And most fashion CEOs are incredibly formal. They dress up, not to titilate horny, aging designers, but to show off. "Look what I'm wearing. Look how expensive it is!"

I don't see that much in B&B's fashion style although there is room for improvement (yet my standards have been incredibly lowered by what the GC elite wore for the infamous gala - L.A.s ladies and gentleman would not even got to Home Depot soo dressed drown or just totally horrendous ). What annoys me is that Birgit Muller has a thing for cleavege. Those actresses who don't have that much to show are dressed incredibly awful whereas the rest is dressed to the nines - of course not in business-style but nighclub hook-up style.

I also consider B&B my #1 soap for various reasons. It's just the guilty pleasure and has the most escapist style à la Lorimar/Spelling soap operas. I feel much rather let down by Y&R (or other soaps I once watched but haven't in eternity) than I do by B&B. This used to be less the case some years ago but definitely is that way since 2003 or so, even though that is also the year where I think B&B started to become hell of a lot uneven.

Well, I just thought that I never really met a die-hard B&B fan or at least not many. I always thought B&B is just a soap people watch besides their favorite soap. If I think about it, B&B is pretty easy to get into and is just half an hour.

So here are many B&B fan, but are you all americans? That was my whole point. I know the soap is very popular in Europe and other territories.

To go back to the pictures, they are all georgous. I hope some of them end up on magazines.

Edited August 1, 200817 yr by SeanM

Is there even one user on SON who considers B&B his #1 soap, just to prove me wrong?

Here's one more. When I started watching soaps, Search for Tomorrow as my#1 show, since that was the very first soap I recall watching with my mom. Then later it became Y&R, especially when SEARCH moved to NBC. I guess the Bell pedigree was what drew me to B&B, and it's become #1 for me for a lot of reasons. Part of it is that I've been there completely from the beginning. With Y&R, I was watching since the 70s, but that started out as something I watched just because my mom had it on, and I was too young to really understand everything I saw. That wasn't the case with B&B. And for a while, I got ticked off a bit at Y&R when Bill Bell put his daughter's Cricket character front burner, so I got a little more into B&B as a result, so I was there through it's heyday of the Caroline/Ridge/Brooke and then Brooke/Taylor/Ridge days in the 90s.

Is B&B perfect? Far from it, especially when you compare the work of the head writer in the 90s, when he kept his tradition of juggling multiple stories at one time, to today where sometimes weeks of B&B will really focus just on one story. And Brad sometimes goes to far over the top when he tries to push the envelope. But every now and then, there's a reminder of B&B at it's best, like the rape story last year (before it just died and lost all its impact on everyone on the canvas) or Storm's death scenes that reminds me what I liked about the show.

Well, I just thought that I never really met a die-hard B&B fan or at least not many. I always thought B&B is just a soap people watch besides their favorite soap. If I think about it, B&B is pretty easy to get into and is just half an hour.

And the half hour format is both a blessing and a curse. On the one hand, it's a lot easier to keep up with, since it only needs 20 minutes (after commercials) to keep up with the action. But at the same time, having only half the time the other soaps have means that you can't cover as much, and that's not a good thing. There used to be like 3 stories on B&B in a given week, but these days, you're lucky if you have two, and all too many cast members have gotten lost in the shuffle because the show has less room to showcase everyone.

So here are many B&B fan, but are you all americans? That was my whole point. I know the soap is very popular in Europe and other territories.

Lived in the US all my life.

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ETA: But we'd have to explain why Charlie/Donna didn't recognize each other during the Stephanie murder investigation. But that can be easily explained.

Yeah, that would be easy. From Charlie's end, since Donna was a suspect in the shooting, Charlie might have feared that his objectivity would be questioned by his dad if it came out that he knew Donna. And on Donna's side, she might have been afraid that her secret pregnancy might be exposed if she admitted she knew Charlie, and that was just the kind of ammunition Stephanie would have used to break Donna and Eric up at the time.

Well, I just thought that I never really met a die-hard B&B fan or at least not many.

Ugh the B&B message board is full of people who are way too crazy about the show.

I think most people on here know what to expect from B&B and just take it for what it is.

Well, I just thought that I never really met a die-hard B&B fan or at least not many.

What sort of an argument is that?! If you haven't met one, it doesn't mean such a fan does not exist.

P.S.: Can I just tell you how much I wish BTH was actually on the air! F/X should be screening at 7pm or something.

you mean 1am? ha. lol...

I think F/X can get away with screening pretty much whatever it wants, unlike its network sister of the other "Big 4" networks. A daily soap might find a good home between 5-8pm.

maybe, but thats still ... i dont even know the word to use.. for 7pm. I would say 11pm.

I'll take ANY timeslot!!! I could see it on F/X or to try to lend some credibility to HereTV! or Logo (which doesn't really have a soap, unless you count QAF). I doubt SoapNet would give me a shot, but I always hoped that if SoapNet took on B&B, that they'd decide to use that other half hour of programming to give BTH a shot.

Would I have to recast Kari Wuhrer's role because of the legal issues from her termination from GH?! I'd hate to.

What sort of an argument is that?! If you haven't met one, it doesn't mean such a fan does not exist.

You know what I mean, it seems there are more fans of the other soaps out there than from B&B. B&B is "liked" by many but not "loved with a passion", that at least is the impression I got in the past. I hope you get the idea.

When you look outside the U.S. you see a totally different picture. My cousin lived in Italy for a while and the popularity of B&B there is unbelievable.

Someone wrote me and said Sheilaforever is from Germany, so maybe he (?) has something interesting about the german B&B fan to report.

Anyway, my whole point was that it is a shame that such beautiful pictures have not seen the light of day on any magazine. The picture where taken 9 month ago.

When you look outside the U.S. you see a totally different picture. My cousin lived in Italy for a while and the popularity of B&B there is unbelievable.

B&B is huge in many of the international markets it airs in, and Italy is one of the biggest. Whenever any of the actors go over there, whether it's for location shoots, promos or even vacations, they're treated like movie stars.

Anyway, my whole point was that it is a shame that such beautiful pictures have not seen the light of day on any magazine. The picture where taken 9 month ago.

The last couple of years, it seems like B&B has been waiting a bit longer than they used to to release the annual cast photo and the photos taken along with it. So that might account for some of that lull. But what's really odd is that even once the photos were released, many of those posted in this thread haven't shown up in at all, in magazines or online. This is the first time I've seen a lot of the red curtain individual shots, for instance. The only ones I think I've seen before are John McCook and Heather Tom.

Sigh - what could have been...

Sigh - what could have been...

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