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3 hours ago, DRW50 said:

There are several 1981-1982 episodes here, and a clip of Christmas Eve 1980. Might want to see them while they're still up.

https://www.dailymotion.com/carlton-eastport/videos

Great link!! Thanks!!

Retro should turn to the fans and put up any recordings they might have of episodes from 1981 and 1982. Since Retro's recent site update, the video quality of fan recordings would probably be only marginally worse than Retro's digital transfers from the actual masters.

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Wow that is disturbing (but given it was NBC not entirely surprising) to read about the NBC wiping The Doctors tapes in the early 80’s. I wonder if that inspired the live episode in the movie Tootsie.

What’s more I find interesting NBC blamed the producers for the collapsing ratings and not themselves for shuffling The Doctors around from one bad time slot to the next.

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I had hoped to be able to make sense of some of the revolving door or writers/producers after 1980, in addition, seeing the the opening with The Doctors (the closing theme is beautiful) in green lettering; doesn't appear we will get to that point unfortunately. 

1 hour ago, soapfan770 said:

Wow that is disturbing (but given it was NBC not entirely surprising) to read about the NBC wiping The Doctors tapes in the early 80’s. I wonder if that inspired the live episode in the movie Tootsie.

What’s more I find interesting NBC blamed the producers for the collapsing ratings and not themselves for shuffling The Doctors around from one bad time slot to the next.

No, I think the live episode on "Tootsie" really happened, however I do not recall the details. The director there is for Gloria Monty. 

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37 minutes ago, MichaelGL said:

I had hoped to be able to make sense of some of the revolving door or writers/producers after 1980, in addition, seeing the the opening with The Doctors (the closing theme is beautiful) in green lettering; doesn't appear we will get to that point unfortunately. 

Yes, you will see the opening with the green lettering. It debuted in August 1980 when the show moved to 12:30 p.m. I watched one of the August 1980 episodes the other day and saw that opening. What you won't hear is the final theme song, which debuted, I think, in 1981. What is interesting is that some of the August 1980 episodes feature the old Doctors logo at the beginning of the opening scene.

51 minutes ago, soapfan770 said:

What’s more I find interesting NBC blamed the producers for the collapsing ratings and not themselves for shuffling The Doctors around from one bad time slot to the next.

I agree wholeheartedly. What's shocking is that NBC had been making plans to expand DOOL to 90 minutes and The Doctors to one hour, with The Doctors shifting to 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.

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10 minutes ago, robbwolff said:

Yes, you will see the opening with the green lettering. It debuted in August 1980 when the show moved to 12:30 p.m. I watched one of the August 1980 episodes the other day and saw that opening. What you won't hear is the final theme song, which debuted, I think, in 1981. What is interesting is that some of the August 1980 episodes feature the old Doctors logo at the beginning of the opening scene.

Thank you so much!! 

1 hour ago, robbwolff said:

What's shocking is that NBC had been making plans to expand DOOL to 90 minutes and The Doctors to one hour, with The Doctors shifting to 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.

Can you point me to anywhere I can read about plans to do a 90 minute show for DAYS? Of all that I've read & heard & taken note of about Fred Silverman's pushing the 90 minute show on AW I have yet to ever see any mention of doing it with any other soap. And, we've talked before about their starting the process with DOC after they expanded first AW & then DAYS to one hour, but that they never pursued it any further with DOC. I'm not saying I dispute this, only that I have no information on it. 

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30 minutes ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Can you point me to anywhere I can read about plans to do a 90 minute show for DAYS? Of all that I've read & heard & taken note of about Fred Silverman's pushing the 90 minute show on AW I have yet to ever see any mention of doing it with any other soap. And, we've talked before about their starting the process with DOC after they expanded first AW & then DAYS to one hour, but that they never pursued it any further with DOC. I'm not saying I dispute this, only that I have no information on it. 

Unfortunately, I can't recall where I saw it as I've got COVID brain fog going on. But it was definitely somewhere on SON. I think it was a May 1979 Variety article. It showed the proposed line-up, including The Doctors airing from 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m., a new soap going in at 12:30, DOOL airing from 1:00 to 2:30, and AW from 2:30 to 4:00. I definitely recall reading about it in a book back around 1979-1980 as well. Unfortunately, I no longer have the book, but it may have been this one. I recall there was a section in the book about daytime TV, including shots of the Ryan family from Ryan's Hope. The book stated that even though the AW expansion was deemed unsuccessful that NBC was still toying with expanding DOOL.

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, robbwolff said:

Unfortunately, I can't recall where I saw it as I've got COVID brain fog going on. But it was definitely somewhere on SON. I think it was a May 1979 Variety article. It showed the proposed line-up, including The Doctors airing from 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m., a new soap going in at 12:30, DOOL airing from 1:00 to 2:30, and AW from 2:30 to 4:00. I definitely recall reading about it in a book back around 1979-1980 as well. Unfortunately, I no longer have the book, but it may have been this one. I recall there was a section in the book about daytime TV, including shots of the Ryan family from Ryan's Hope. The book stated that even though the AW expansion was deemed unsuccessful that NBC was still toying with expanding DOOL.

Thanks, @robbwolff. Your last sentence, of course, is why this is simply staggering. 

I have just placed an order for a copy of that book. 

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4 hours ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Thanks, @robbwolff. Your last sentence, of course, is why this is simply staggering. 

I have just placed an order for a copy of that book. 

The post about the proposed NBC line-up can be found on page 3 of the NBC Daytime thread, which is stored under the Cancelled Soap Operas section of this forum.

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Here is an interesting behind the scenes video on how Retro TV had to transfer all the tapes of The Doctors to the digital platform and the discovery that NBC reused the tapes for the final 2 years of the series.  Makes you wonder what is going on with all the tapes of the P&G shows…

 

 

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On 7/13/2023 at 1:15 PM, Donna L. Bridges said:

Can you point me to anywhere I can read about plans to do a 90 minute show for DAYS? Of all that I've read & heard & taken note of about Fred Silverman's pushing the 90 minute show on AW I have yet to ever see any mention of doing it with any other soap. And, we've talked before about their starting the process with DOC after they expanded first AW & then DAYS to one hour, but that they never pursued it any further with DOC. I'm not saying I dispute this, only that I have no information on it. 

I just happened to come across this information recently.  This is from a June 1979, Daily News.

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Skimming that video and I didn't really see any mention of the more scattered episodes before what ran on Retro. I wonder if they are ever going to make those available or have given up.

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On 7/12/2023 at 6:51 AM, Joseph said:

I think we should just be grateful we have access to all those Episodes now and FOR FREE!!!! Maybe some day the rest will pop up! Until then let's just enjoy what we got, Is a hell of a lot more than we can say for most soaps! Days should really release some of the classic episodes! That would solve their money problems!

I concur. I am so happy with what we have!!

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