i agree with everything.

i just dont discuss atwt here because all it is a thread of katie bashing and i katie. its not that i want everyone lse to love her, hell i understand the hate. but why would i discuss my love of katie during a katie hate thread when i could discuss it somewhere else? lol.

and honestly, aside from the katie/brad/liberty storyline i dont much care to discujss anything else on atwt. other than the fact that i am loving holden/carly and thats another no-no here, lol.

we could discuss how amazing michael park is tho? because srsly. perfection.

See? I knew I pissed off someone with my Katie-snarkdom. Now that she's stopped bouncing between the Brothers Snyder, I'll try and focus on my growing admiration for all things Austin Peck, instead of what I dislike about the wench. I now feel like we got a steal from DOOL. His character there must have been [!@#$%^&*], because I think he's Peck-tastic. If he was with ANYONE else, I'd probably be drooling over them.

Poor Michael...Jack is probably the most assassinated character still on the show. It's hard to like Jack right now, this flucked up version is not the character I (or Carly) fell for.

^u didnt piss me off, i actually find it amusing...

peck is love.

I don't think JS is a bad actor...he's just got NO chemistry with VH. (And, btw...if I see that simpering look on Luke's face again, I'm gonna freakin' slap it off him.) I thought that was where TIIC made a huge mistake, not testing the Noah/Maddie chemistry before predetermining that Noah would be Luke's boyfriend. I thought Jake and Alex Chando had a lot of chemistry.

I actually don't think this younger crowd of actors is that bad (certainly not as bad as geekCasey and Sarah, orphan of Marshall Travers days...) They need time to grow. People always diss newbies before they just suddenly don't. I used to scream bloody murder at Maddie's endless stupid fantasies back in the day. There was a freakin' streak of them---every day Maddie would be on, she'd have some stupid movie-inspired fantasy. NOW, I miss Maddie a lot more than I'll ever miss Gwen.

I actually think JS is pretty good, too; the moment of their first kiss was electrifying, and that was entirely due to watching the realization and want dawn across his face. And he did great work showing Noah's uncertainty and fear that built up to that moment as well.

My problem is with Luke; it's not just the simpering face -- which bugs the same as it does you -- it's that the writers and the actor appear to have forgotten one very important fact: Luke is a VIRGIN. Noah is the first person, male or female, that he's ever even kissed. But now suddenly he comes across as sexually experienced and just horny for his boyfriend, and it drives me nuts. Where is Luke's uncertainty, his nervousness, his shyness? That would be much more interesting to see play out than watching him stare at Noah's mouth or off pouting because Ameera is in the next room. The writers did a tremendous job with Maddie and Casey's relationship after the serial killer/rapist story, the way they talked out their fears about sex and trust. They have it in them to do these two justice as well.

Also, every single time I look at Ameera I think how much more interesting Maddie would have been in the same position. Plus, she was already involved with Casey, so him trying to win her (back) would have fit in the story naturally!

^luke dont got time to by shy and worried. he has to take the few small moments with noah he egst and try to pounce... lol.

Well Today's show was kind of so-so. Loved the Barbara and Lisa talk. Though I really wish they would focus more then they are on the cancer storyline. The Katie/Liberty/Brad storyline is just getting so old already, its on way to much, and nothing much new happens ever. The Paul/Sofie/Mike/Meg thing was so so as well, though I am so sick of all the storylines revolving around the most boring couple in history Paul and Meg.

Previews look not so good either, Janet another newbie, like we need more of those . And then NuLily

I saw a preview of nuLily....I think I'm already a fan of Noelle's. I know Lily is revered, and I've been hosed off about other recasts (ugh, the suckdom that was nuHal, even though I adore Randy Mantooth...) but I ultimately think that Lily had grown stale, whether it was the writing or Martha. I'm hoping Lily will be revitalized now.

Today's eppy wasn't great, but at least it seemed like ATWT. Yesterday, chock full of recast newbies and stories right off the starting blocks just seemed weird. Today seemed more balanced in a way. Even if the story-blocks seemed to be very rigid. Five minutes of Liberty et al, five minutes of Paul, et al.

Floved Babs getting some airtime. (It is CREEPY weird how much Sophie looks like Julia Lindsay, pre-nutso Viagra rapist) And I loved her being sympathetic to Sophie, instead of a harpy bitch blaming the slut instead of her own, much older, son.

LOL at Sage narcing on Parker, like every other younger sibling, EVER.

Kind of rolled my eyes at Katie harping on Liberty getting her way in spite of lying...as if Katie hasn't benefitted from her bad behavior...she is married to the hottie she was flucking for revenge purposes, isn't she?

I like this Mike...even if he is just the speed bump to Paul/Meg. (At this point, I think they deserve one another). In fact, I'd rather he be the bump. Getting dragged into that rat's nest is the kiss of death. Or coma.

i really cant wait to see NB as Lilly.

>I have come to the realization that in soapdom only a fan of Luke and Noah as a couple or an employee of P&G can put the words "Jake Silbermann" and "good actor" in the same sentence and not be joking.>

LOL. I watched Tuesday's episode and as usual, I did not see anything remotely resembling acting talent in his big scenes. To me, Mr. Silbermann always acts like he acting. He's not a natural. I just don't see any acting talent.

I will say though that I do enjoy watching Van Hansis.

I know that Jake Silbermann is not popular around here, but I will still say that I loved him on Tuesday's show, and IMO proved he is a good actor, the guy just needed something meaty to work with, and he finally got it with his scenes with Winston.

I thought he was just ok. It was same drivel material he had before Daddy Dearest went to jail. His acting is very wooden.

I have come to the realization that in soapdom only a fan of Luke and Noah as a couple or an employee of P&G can put the words "Jake Silbermann" and "good actor" in the same sentence and not be joking.

I kind of agree with this statement. In a particulary board.....Jake cant do no wrong. The posters arent being fair in their opinons. They are clouded because the character is gay.

And I guess seeing as alot of people don't like the actor on this board, I am not allowed to state that I do like him without being insulted or the fanbase being insulted.

I've never seen anyone say they dont like the actor. They might not like his acting. But as a person he seems like a very nice guy. The same thing was done to me at Van's board Clint. You know that. The fanbases were or are even worse than posters on here. They were cruel. Like I said I havent seen anyone bash Jake as a person....maybe his acting yes....but very few.

I don't understand why you Nuke fans have to have everyone love your couple and fawn over the bad acting.

Van is fine...but Jake is another thing with his acting. I loved the couple at the beginning. But now I want Luke paired with someone new. I did see a thread about Jake's great acting. I am sorry but I had to laugh at that thread.

No wonder I don't post here anymore, I hate when everyone is grouped together, I have never been one to push a couple on someone, and actally I don't think alot of Nuke fans are like that either. I think you just have an issue with anyone posting about them.

Clint you may not but the Nuke fans do push them. You have been brainwashed over there. Arent you the one....well..nevermind.......no I will say it..werent you the one who was harrased by posters over there for not thinking like them?? How soon you forget.

I saw a preview of nuLily....I think I'm already a fan of Noelle's. I know Lily is revered, and I've been hosed off about other recasts (ugh, the suckdom that was nuHal, even though I adore Randy Mantooth...) but I ultimately think that Lily had grown stale, whether it was the writing or Martha. I'm hoping Lily will be revitalized now.

Today's eppy wasn't great, but at least it seemed like ATWT. Yesterday, chock full of recast newbies and stories right off the starting blocks just seemed weird. Today seemed more balanced in a way. Even if the story-blocks seemed to be very rigid. Five minutes of Liberty et al, five minutes of Paul, et al.

Floved Babs getting some airtime. (It is CREEPY weird how much Sophie looks like Julia Lindsay, pre-nutso Viagra rapist) And I loved her being sympathetic to Sophie, instead of a harpy bitch blaming the slut instead of her own, much older, son.

LOL at Sage narcing on Parker, like every other younger sibling, EVER.

Kind of rolled my eyes at Katie harping on Liberty getting her way in spite of lying...as if Katie hasn't benefitted from her bad behavior...she is married to the hottie she was flucking for revenge purposes, isn't she?

I like this Mike...even if he is just the speed bump to Paul/Meg. (At this point, I think they deserve one another). In fact, I'd rather he be the bump. Getting dragged into that rat's nest is the kiss of death. Or coma.

Thanks for the recap PJ. I missed the show. It didnt record for me.

>I have come to the realization that in soapdom only a fan of Luke and Noah as a couple or an employee of P&G can put the words "Jake Silbermann" and "good actor" in the same sentence and not be joking.>

LOL. I watched Tuesday's episode and as usual, I did not see anything remotely resembling acting talent in his big scenes. To me, Mr. Silbermann always acts like he acting. He's not a natural. I just don't see any acting talent.

I will say though that I do enjoy watching Van Hansis.

Van is good....Jake needs some acting lessons IMO. So I agree with your post.

Clint not dogging you. You know u are a dear friend...but be honest ....you know how it is over there.

Edited May 7, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

I've never seen anyone say they dont like the actor. They might not like his acting. But as a person he seems like a very nice guy. The same thing was done to me at Van's board Clint. You know that. The fanbases were or are even worse than posters on here. They were cruel. Like I said I havent seen anyone bash Jake as a person....maybe his acting yes....but very few.

I was not really talking about the bashing of Jake as much as the insulting post to me, I posted that I liked his acting during those scenes and got jumped all over, and pretty much all but made fun of. I don't have a problem with someone not liking the acting of a character, but insulting me in the process of there dislike of the acting, is not right IMO. And it never used to be like that here.

Edited May 7, 200817 yr by winterguy125

I have to agree with PJ about Noelle. I saw the preview for tomorrow as well and I thought she was doing a great job as Lily. The character had become very stale and boring and I'm not blaming that completely on Martha either. The writing for the character has been awful. And Jon and Martha needed a break as far as I was concerened as well. The Peg/Sophie/Mike stuff is pure ff stuff for me as well. And I love Roger Howarth. He was the reason I started watching this show in the first place. Loved him on OLTL so when he came to ATWT I checked him out. And then became a Carjacker.... I wish they would give Paul a real storyline with a real love interest and not this crap they are giving him now.

Looking forward to the opening of Metro tomorrow.

I was not really talking about the bashing of Jake as much as the insulting post to me, I posted that I liked his acting during those scenes and got jumped all over, and pretty much all but made fun of. I don't have a problem with someone not liking the acting of a character, but insulting me in the process of there dislike of the acting, is not right IMO.

I didnt see the post. Where is it at? Report it to the mods.

Edited May 7, 200817 yr by Soapsuds

I didnt see the post. Where is it at? Report it to the mods.

http://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/index.p...st&p=586943

Sorry about that post number 21 by Ann.

Edited May 7, 200817 yr by winterguy125

I have to agree with PJ about Noelle. I saw the preview for tomorrow as well and I thought she was doing a great job as Lily. The character had become very stale and boring and I'm not blaming that completely on Martha either. The writing for the character has been awful. And Jon and Martha needed a break as far as I was concerened as well. The Peg/Sophie/Mike stuff is pure ff stuff for me as well. And I love Roger Howarth. He was the reason I started watching this show in the first place. Loved him on OLTL so when he came to ATWT I checked him out. And then became a Carjacker.... I wish they would give Paul a real storyline with a real love interest and not this crap they are giving him now.

Looking forward to the opening of Metro tomorrow.

It will be very interesting tomorrow with Noelle. I need to find todays eppy. So that I can see the previews.