I personally loved the Hogan Sheffer years on ATWT.There seemed to be more fast-paced storylines and more mystery and adventure back then.It seems miles above anything we get from JP now and her storylines drag out way too long.At least with Sheffer if the story was a clunker at least it ended quickly,but with JP she doesn't know when to end the madness and draw it to a close.Even reading the ATWT synopses from 2002-2003 on soapcentral.com seemed more interesting than what the show is spewing out now.What is everyone's take on this topic?

Why should she go anywhere if she's doing a good job?

I just remembered Hogan did a great scene back in 2004 when Susan and Kim clashed over Chris and Alison's relationship:

Susan(smugly): Say hi to Bob for me...

Kim: GO TO HELL!!!

I just remembered Hogan did a great scene back in 2004 when Susan and Kim clashed over Chris and Alison's relationship:

Susan(smugly): Say hi to Bob for me...

Kim: GO TO HELL!!!

Do you happen to know wrote that episode's breakdown and/or script? I loved ATWT's 2001-2003 scripts. Very delicious.

I remember Barbara's (is CZP simply amazing or what?) MAN rant towards Emily in 2003/2004. "You can take from a man...they'll never love a woman like you" LOVED it. Another great CZP scene was when she jumped out of the courthouse window after saying "So long, suckers...". That was a major WTF moment.

Well she had a good writing team under her the first six months, just like Sheffer had in 2000 and 2001. Trent Jones and Josh Griffith were apart of the team. As soon as they left so did the good stories.

Maybe it's bc I still remember how horrible she was on AMC, but I just can't find anything positive about Jean Passanante's reign on ATWT.

Hm what about Cleo Babbit,,,JPiss's greatest creation

Cleo. *shudders* And she even tied it into Noah and Luke lol...

But I do admit I think much of Noah and Luke is being done right so I suppose she deserves credit... but I admit the way she QUICKLY decimated any realism and emotion from AMC has really made me biased against her. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show destoryed so quickly in such a ridiculous way (and she even left early breaking her contract, going to ATWT amidst rumours that she was about to be fired)

Passanante has some talent--she was a major writer during much of Malone/Grifftih's glory reign on OLTL which is where I think she made much of her reputation... but as a HW? I dunno... I still have to wonder if Agnes Nixon actually chose her to be her co HW when Agnes briefly returned to AMC in 99 or if it was imposed on her--just such an odd choice (especially as at first she was working with the much better Elizabeth Page)

Passanante has some talent--she was a major writer during much of Malone/Grifftih's glory reign on OLTL which is where I think she made much of her reputation... but as a HW? I dunno... I still have to wonder if Agnes Nixon actually chose her to be her co HW when Agnes briefly returned to AMC in 99 or if it was imposed on her--just such an odd choice (especially as at first she was working with the much better Elizabeth Page)

I think the only reason she has continued to get hired as HW of some poor unsuspecting soap is because she's friends with the right people, like Goutman for example. Also perhaps her tenure with Malone and Griffith is still fresh on some minds when they hire her. I don't think it's because she's truly a talented writer. JMHO.

I didn't make the switch to ATWT after AW got cancelled. The Vicky the Ghost story completely destroyed the Vicky&Ryan love story. If Hogan studied history he would have known to bring back Paul Michael Valley and do a Vicky/Jake/Ryan triangle. That would have gotten AW fans to watch. And raising Ryan from the dead after he was shot at point blank range wouldn't have been a problem for a man who brought back Dr. Rolf (WHY BOTHER??? IT'S ROLF!!!) and simply said "it didn't take."

Steve

I forgot all about the whole Jake/Vicki/Molly stuff on ATWT. Hogan wrote that? If he did then I'll always hold that against him.

I think the baby-switch storyline was great. It was classic umbrella-storyline. Everyone was involved, with great playout and fallout. The Luke/Noah storyline is getting raves as well, another JP creation. Maura and Jennifer won their Emmys under JP, who I think is doing a very nice job, compared to hack Hogan.

Guiding Light was named best drama series. Let's not give the Emmys too much credit.

The Nuke story was a mess until it was made clear that Noah is gay. Craig and Paul's rivalry has been a chore to watch at best. Alison ditched crystal meth with her looks intact. Cleo. 'Nuff said.

Teens on the run was the reason why I watched the show since they filmed in my hometown. From there I was hooked when Lucy was hit by a bus, which I didn't see coming at all! Then of course after watching ATWT, it was a must to watch GL.

Guiding Light was named best drama series. Let's not give the Emmys too much credit.

The Nuke story was a mess until it was made clear that Noah is gay. Craig and Paul's rivalry has been a chore to watch at best. Alison ditched crystal meth with her looks intact. Cleo. 'Nuff said.

Good thing you mentioned GL's Daytime Emmy win, stenbeck212. I feel that next year's award for Drama Series & Best Writing is between "Show A" & GL. There is a push to have GL win a lot awards. Awards do not translate into viewers, CBS, PGP, Televest.

If Sheffer were to return to ATWT as HW with a lot of his colleagues with him, and Goutman being fired, I have no doubt that they'd clean up a lot of the mess caused by him, Passanante, Laiman & Whitesell. Sheffer's last five months were much better than the ATWT's May to September 2007. Do others wish for Sheffer to HW ATWT?

I wish Hogan would come back to ATWT since the news broke out about his exit. His worst days were way better than JP and Goutman's best days. I don't think Hogan is a good fit for Days. He's not getting the freedom he wants and there's always interference from Corday and Co. I want Hogan and his team from 2000-2005 back at ATWT. Well, make that 2000-2001's team. I remember watching Passions more than ATWT before Passions was let go on NBC. You know what was sad? Although Passions had so much repetition, I was ENTERTAINED. ATWT was an annoying chore that I gave up.

This writing is so bad that when I had to throw out my tapes (*gasp*), I got rid of all tapes from Summer 2005 up to Simon's return. I don't tape anymore. Heck, I don't even watch anymore. I was forced to throw away my Days tapes (1999-2001) for space issues. Damn. I hated that part, but ATWT? It was alright. There was nothing worth saving under this regime.

I am starting to think the current ATWT regime is sabotaging their show. It's the only explanation as to why they are rewriting every single character and angering fanbases across the globe.

Edited October 17, 200718 yr by sema608

I forgot all about the whole Jake/Vicki/Molly stuff on ATWT. Hogan wrote that? If he did then I'll always hold that against him.

I hated that story just because they split Jake and Vicky. I have a feeling that the decision was more of Goutman's than Hogan's.

No Hogan back on ATWT ever!!!!!! He had his chance... 5 years. That's longer than most HWs get.

I actually wish he could come back to ATWT, thank you so much Pissante.

I am starting to think the current ATWT regime is sabotaging their show. It's the only explanation as to why they are rewriting every single character and angering fanbases across the globe.

What would be the reason for this? Them wanting to get back at CBS? PGP? It is clear that Goutman and Passanante are close friends, along with Laiman, and that is a problem for the show. Sometimes the HW & EP need to have an "oil and water" type of relationship like Guza Jr. & Riche had. In the case of JER & Corday, it did not work out the second time around.