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July 23-27, 2007

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Jean Pissanante needs to be fired. I dont know what everyone at CBS is waiting for.

This is even more depressing news!

And dead last in Viewers.

When will changes be made?

Everyone head writer and EP on CBSD needs to be fired! LOL! I'm convinced Barbara Bloom has turned into one lazy bitch, who just sits back and lets these shows deteriorate.

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Everyone head writer and EP on CBSD needs to be fired! LOL! I'm convinced Barbara Bloom has turned into one lazy bitch, who just sits back and lets these shows deteriorate.

:lol: I guess so! Last week we did have vets on ATWT. But the numbers did not budge. We had Meg slap Lucinda on Wednesday. Barbara finding about Paul being alive on Friday plus the explosion with Carly and Jack. Luke was on for 5 seconds on Monday which had a higher rating except for Tuesday. I just think the storylines stink and viewers arent tuning in. It has been a while now that ATWT has been struggling in the ratings. It is time CBS do something about the HW job and fire this hack!!

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Sucks DAYS went down... all the way through out the week.

Amazing OLTL is still higher than DAYS in the demos!! Go OLTL!

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ABC actually does use Live + Same Day ratings in their press releases, so the numbers we eventually get for demos should match exactly (ABC briefly switched to Live only for a few months last year, but switched back).

Nielsen now breaks down ratings into three categories: Live (which includes those who watched live, as well as those who record the show using a VCR); Live + Same Day (which in addition to what's included with Live ratings, also includes those who DVR the show and watch it within 24 hours of it's broadcast....these are the ratings we see here); and finally, Live + Same Week, (which as it sounds, includes those who DVR and watch within 7 days of the broadcast...we never see these for daytime anywhere, but they do exist....in primetime, this ratings category really adds a lot of ratings points to certain shows, but advertisers are reluctant to pay for these extra bodies). ***Soapnet ratings are not included in any of these categories; they are completely separate ratings***

Personally, I would LOVE to see "cumulative" ratings for ALL the daytime shows, meaning for any particular week, I'd love to see the ratings for "Live + Same Week" + "Soapnet airings" + "Internet downloaded ratings." Just out of curiousity.

You are the best and thank you for not laughing at my dorky question!! hehe

I would also be interested in cumulative totals. Now, do the "live" watchers still have the old Nielson boxes and are registered Nielson families as with traditional ratings? and for the DVR numbers, do all dvr providers (i.e. TiVo, Comcast, etc) share dvr recording data? how readily available are those numbers to Nielson?

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Those day to day ratings for AMC are all over the place, 2.6 to 2.2. Seems like most the shows drop off on Friday's but that is a huge drop especially with all the drama that has been going on. I wonder if these storylines of the new writers will hold the audience's interest and keep it or if they are going to fluctuate?? Maybe the audience is tired of Greenlee and baby storylines. And I still think that they need to bring back vets or characters that have more history with the show than these two newbies that are joining the show soon. Anyway, I can't wait to see the ratings next Thursday to see how AMC does.

And how is it possible that Y&R increased as the week went on??? Is the show improving that much?

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MONDAY, JULY 23, 2007

1.(1) Y&R: Monday: 3.9/5,441,000 (+118,000)

2.(2) B&B: Monday: 2.9/3,789,000 (+238,000)

3.(3) GH: Monday: 2.7/3,613,000 (+221,000)

4.(4) OLTL: Monday: 2.5/3,223,000 (+261,000)

5.(5) DAYS: Monday: 2.3/3,149,000 (+242,000)

6.(7) AMC: Monday: 2.3/2,950,000 (+216,000)

7.(6) ATWT: Monday: 2.2/2,836,000 (-14,000)

8.(8) GL: Monday: 1.9/2,469,000 (-176,000)

9.(9) PSNS: Monday: 1.5/2,019,000 (-81,000)

TUESDAY, JULY 24, 2007

1.(1) Y&R: Tuesday: 4.1/5,448,000 (+7,000)

2.(2) B&B: Tuesday: 3.0/3,877,000 (+88,000)

3.(3) GH: Tuesday: 2.7/3,486,000 (-127,000)

4.(4) OLTL: Tuesday: 2.5/3,277,000 (+54,000)

5.(6) AMC: Tuesday: 2.4/3,048,000 (+98,000)

6.(5) DAYS: Tuesday: 2.2/2,893,000 (-256,000)

7.(7) ATWT: Tuesday: 2.3/2,885,000 (+49,000)

8.(8) GL: Tuesday: 2.1/2,640,000 (+171,000)

9.(9) PSNS: Tuesday: 1.5/2,011,000 (-8,000)

WEDNESDAY, JULY 25, 2007

1.(1) Y&R: Wednesday: 4.0/5,501,000 (+53,000)

2.(2) B&B: Wednesday: 2.8/3,747,000 (-130,000)

3.(4) OLTL: Wednesday: 2.5/3,360,000 (+83,000)

4.(3) GH: Wednesday: 2.5/3,279,000 (-207,000)

5.(5) AMC: Wednesday: 2.4/3,207,000 (+159,000)

6.(7) ATWT: Wednesday: 2.1/2,836,000 (-49,000)

7.(6) DAYS: Wednesday: 2.1/2,801,000 (-92,000)

8.(8) GL: Wednesday: 1.9/2,561,000 (-79,000)

9.(9) PSNS: Wednesday: 1.4/1,794,000 (-217,000)

THURSDAY, JULY 26, 2007

1.(1) Y&R: Thursday: 4.0/5,410,000 (-91,000)

2.(2) B&B: Thursday: 2.6/3,499,000 (-248,000)

3.(5) AMC: Thursday: 2.6/3,368,000 (+161,000)

4.(3) OLTL: Thursday: 2.5/3,164,000 (-196,000)

5.(4) GH: Thursday: 2.5/3,010,000 (-269,000)

6.(6) ATWT: Thursday: 2.1/2,737,000 (-99,000)

7.(7) DAYS: Thursday: 2.0/2,554,000 (-247,000)

8.(8) GL: Thursday: 1.8/2,415,000 (-146,000)

9.(9) PSNS: Thursday: 1.3/1,729,000 (-65,000)

FRIDAY, JULY 27, 2007

1.(1) Y&R: Friday: 4.2/5,693,000 (+283,000)

2.(2) B&B: Friday: 2.7/3,714,000 (+215,000)

3.(5) GH: Friday: 2.4/3,131,000 (+121,000)

4.(4) OLTL: Friday: 2.3/2,977,000 (-187,000)

5.(6) ATWT: Friday: 2.1/2,967,000 (+230,000)

6.(3) AMC: Friday: 2.2/2,935,000 (-433,000)

7.(7) DAYS: Friday: 1.9/2,806,000 (+252,000)

8.(8) GL: Friday: 1.7/2,595,000 (+180,000)

9.(9) PSNS: Friday: 1.3/1,908,000 (+179,000)

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Ratings are a bit better than 2or 3 months ago but It's still worst than the year before

I thank Days got a 1.8 3 weeks ago :blink:

That's why I posted - they went up a bit. But who knows if the trend will continue.

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You are the best and thank you for not laughing at my dorky question!! hehe

I would also be interested in cumulative totals. Now, do the "live" watchers still have the old Nielson boxes and are registered Nielson families as with traditional ratings? and for the DVR numbers, do all dvr providers (i.e. TiVo, Comcast, etc) share dvr recording data? how readily available are those numbers to Nielson?

Your welcome! It wasn't a dorky question at all.

Let's see....

ALL households included in the Nielsen ratings have Nielsen people meters, basically boxes that require input of just who is watching a particular show in the household (diaries are only still used in local market ratings during sweeps, not on a national level). The DVR numbers are only from households with those same Nielsen people meters. If you don't have a Nielsen box, your DVR recordings are NOT included in the Nielsen sample.

The Nielsen sample is not really that big; right now it's less than 10,000 households nationwide. But based on the laws of statistics, it should be pretty accurate, especially in measuring total households, and the larger demographic groups (like 18-49 and 25-54). Where it gets trickier is in measuring the smaller demographic groups, like teens 12-17, because if a few teens in the sample skip a week of their show, it really shows in that demo's rating (i.e. one teen in the sample represents too many teens nationwide). That's why there are so many fluctuations in the teen ratings, and I don't put too much stock in those being particularly accurate.

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Those day to day ratings for AMC are all over the place, 2.6 to 2.2. Seems like most the shows drop off on Friday's but that is a huge drop especially with all the drama that has been going on. I wonder if these storylines of the new writers will hold the audience's interest and keep it or if they are going to fluctuate?? Maybe the audience is tired of Greenlee and baby storylines. And I still think that they need to bring back vets or characters that have more history with the show than these two newbies that are joining the show soon. Anyway, I can't wait to see the ratings next Thursday to see how AMC does.

And how is it possible that Y&R increased as the week went on??? Is the show improving that much?

Agreed. I grew up watching AMC in the 80's and the early 90's. My mom watched the show since they started and I started watching with her. I stopped watching AMC a few years ago because they kept bringing new characters on the show and pretending that the core characters didn't exist. Thankfully, I'd already stopped watching before they did the Unabortion SL and Death by Pancakes so I'm not scarred by that.

I watched AMC for the first time in a few years this past week, and I agree that the car crash story compelled me to watch. It was nice that they bought out a host of core characters in that story and the actors were all excellent. I also thought that Zach and Kendall are awesome as an on screen couple. But it was also nice to see the story because of Kendall and Zach's connection/relationship to core characters like Erica, Jackson, Mytle, and Adam. When they added these characters, I felt connected to the AMC I grew up with.

That being said, I was completely turned off by the way they were showcasing all of these newer younger characters like Greenlee and Ava (who the heck is she?), while at the same time you only get small glimpses of characters like Adam.

I'm hoping with the new writers they will integrate more of the foundational characters into the storyline. At this point I think I'll at least tune in to see whats going on with Zach and Kendall (unless they mess that relationship up), but I just cannot connect with the rest of the newer characters. If they keep with the Ava, Greenlee, and Fusion stuff they probably won't woo back their lost audience.

I can at least say that I watched AMC for the first time in years and really enjoyed the show. There are other long time viewers that I know who have been so turned off by the show that it may take them a while to come back.

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