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Y&R: This Upsets Me

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I stopped watching AMC because of the way they destroyed so many characters, I didn't just keep sticking with it and [!@#$%^&*]ing about it, I did something. If you don't like the show then vote the way it matters, turn off the show. But that's just my way and my opinion.

Most us long time Y&R viewers do not want to just quit watching the show due to character assassination, we want the one who's ruining the characters to stop. Y&R is the number 1 soap due to consistency of character and it has lost that. There are plot holes in every storyline so big a truck can be driven through them. Characters are being changed to fit the storyline rather than this hack having to think of a story for that fits the character. Y&R might be the number 1 show right now, but once the viewers start to quit, it won't be long before it is down in the ratings like All My Children. I think it is actually in danger of being beaten by B&B if this continues.

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Ok, this IS offensive, what you wrote was that nobody likes LML "(except a few, and most are ABC refugees..)" I'm not a refugee and it doesn't earn you brownie points to dis those of us who left ABC soaps.

The comment about nobody is in reference to what you wrote...."nobody" likes her.....so call me nobody then because I do.

I'm sorry, I truly didn't mean to offend you. However, I think you can empathize with me that when you see something that you have dedicated a good chunk of your life to sink helplessly, makes you act rather negative, frustrated, sad, and/or bitter. But it wasn't meant to be offensive, so I take it back. Sorry :)

Juniorz thanks for trying to back me up.

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Exactly! LML made a mistake by using Phillip's real DOB given the fact that he is supposed to have a GROWN son. Now Phillip III has been de-SORASed to 31, which doesn't match the Christine/Nina/Danny age group but now matches the Victoria/Nick/Sharon age group. LML needs to look at ALL the history of the show, not just bits and pieces. So what now, are we supposed to forget that Phillip IV never exsisted? She's a HACK I tell you. A straight HACK!! :angry:

LML deserves a one-way ticket to hell for her craptastic writing foolishness.

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LML deserves a one-way ticket to hell for her craptastic writing foolishness.

You got that right. I just didn't know my favorite soap and one of my favorite shows would be in the damn toilet once LML came on. They should have an Emmy for "quickest way to ruin the #1 soap." LML's ass would win hand down.

I'm telling you, LML is like a damn fanfic writer and when she gets tired, she stops giving a [!@#$%^&*] about the s/ls she already has going and wants to move on to a new s/l instead of ending the first one.

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No Junior, my point was calling people refugees like we don't count. It's simple respect really. And I did try to watch the show many years ago but didn't catch on, it wasn't until this year that I tried again and fell in love with it. So I did see the show pre-LML...once upon a time.

You may have seen it but you admittedly weren't a viewer or a fan at the time. Those that have been watching the show through the years see the difference. The show achieved true art day in & day out for years and it's now a pale imitation of what it once was. That impact is lost on someone who hasn't been with the show through the years.

It's not as if the ABC refugees don't matter........because they do. It's just that you don't feel the same way about Y&R 1973-2005 that those who watched during any of those years do. Anywho......

I too think it's lame to make Michael "Philip" Chancellor. Paul would have been an interesting choice, if only to get the incomparable Carolyn Conwell back as Mary Williams.

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It's not as if the ABC refugees don't matter........because they do. It's just that you don't feel the same way about Y&R 1973-2005 that those who watched during any of those years do. Anywho......

ITA. I know a lot of people that used to watch AMC that just jumped ship and they think the show is great, but when you've watched the show for so many years and you see the identity of the show completely stripped away, you get pissed and notice the reason it sucks. LML is like a black cloud hanging over Y&R's head and it won't go away until she does.

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who would you guys like to see replace the hack? I think Ed Scot should be made EP again, as for HW, I have no idea.

I know one thing for sure, this isn't the Y&R I know and love. If I wanted plot holes and an overall mess, then I would turn into all of ABCD, not Y&R.

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I hear James E. Reilly will be fresh on the market soon :o

Honestly, I don't know who should replace that fruit. I like ED Scott, but he gets on my nerves. Wasn't Shaugnaussey (sp?) at one point headwriting the show?

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People watch out of habit. It is no surprise to anyone that Y&R has a huge fan base of elder viewers. We all know how old people are. They don't like change. If they've been watching a show for 30+ years, they're not changing.

Days of Our Lives could have that same set of loyal older viewers if they hadn't sent them a big FU back in the 90's when they said we don't care about you anymore. Days is an older show than Y&R but somewhere along the way they said we don't care about the viewers who have watched out show since it's inception. And Days has ended up paying for it too. Those younger viewers that the courted unfortunately are fickle, and very quick to change the channel.

As to the argument about who likes Y&R now and who don't. I don't like Latham's Y&R as much as Bell's Y&R but I find it 50 billion times better than Y&R under Alden which is when I started to stop watching and esp. under Smith when I finally did quit watching. I only returned when Latham came aboard.

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Days of Our Lives could have that same set of loyal older viewers if they hadn't sent them a big FU back in the 90's when they said we don't care about you anymore. Days is an older show than Y&R but somewhere along the way they said we don't care about the viewers who have watched out show since it's inception. And Days has ended up paying for it too. Those younger viewers that the courted unfortunately are fickle, and very quick to change the channel.

As to the argument about who likes Y&R now and who don't. I don't like Latham's Y&R as much as Bell's Y&R but I find it 50 billion times better than Y&R under Alden which is when I started to stop watching and esp. under Smith when I finally did quit watching. I only returned when Latham came aboard.

Wow. I really feel sorry for you, because IMO Y&R went straight to the sh*tter after The Hack came aboard.

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Wow. I really feel sorry for you, because IMO Y&R went straight to the sh*tter after The Hack came aboard.

You can keep your sorrow. I don't need it. ;)

It's a good show. Not as good as Y&R once was but I'll still take it any day over most of what daytime is putting out there.

None of the shows on are as good as they once were and they will never be. Y&R was lucky to have had William J. Bell as long as they did. No one can live up to him. Not even his sons who obviously got none of their Dad's expertise. It was his son Bill Bell Jr. who helped to make many of the changes that people don't like.

I am not comparing Y&R to what it was under Bell. I no longer compare any of the shows to their glory days. They can't live up to it. I choose to find what is good about all 9 shows and watch them for that. I compare each show to the current shows on the air. I still think Y&R comes in heads above the rest.

When I do compare, Latham pales in comparison to Bell's Y&R but she is above Alden and Smith's versions.

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When I do compare, Latham pales in comparison to Bell's Y&R but she is above Alden and Smith's versions.

How??? I just don't get it. I don't get how people can say that the crap The Hack is serving us now is better than Y&R 2 or 3 years ago. :unsure:

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Drurocks, thanks for the apology. It's hard enough to post here when you see someone disrepecting a collective group of people who haven't done anything. We are all just fans right?

Anyway, my point was that AMC went into the toilet, it was once a great show, but with the character destruction instead of just complaining and still giving them my time, I quit watching it. If the ratings drop then maybe that will be enough to show TPTB that they need to make changes and quick! If B&B tops Y&R then I bet you'll see major changes happen and quick.

Steve, I agree, it's not fair to compare any soap to what they were years ago, times change, people leave, stuff happens. For me AMC under Agnes Nixon was the best time but you can't keep that going once they leave.

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Drurocks, thanks for the apology. It's hard enough to post here when you see someone disrepecting a collective group of people who haven't done anything. We are all just fans right?

Anyway, my point was that AMC went into the toilet, it was once a great show, but with the character destruction instead of just complaining and still giving them my time, I quit watching it. If the ratings drop then maybe that will be enough to show TPTB that they need to make changes and quick! If B&B tops Y&R then I bet you'll see major changes happen and quick.

Steve, I agree, it's not fair to compare any soap to what they were years ago, times change, people leave, stuff happens. For me AMC under Agnes Nixon was the best time but you can't keep that going once they leave.

I really hope that's not meant towards me.

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