Members Chris B Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 GL has been bad for so many years, I don't know if starting in 99 is a good thing. Kriezman has history there too and look at his headwriter stint. The problem with Y&R is that they continue to fire EMMY winning writers who know the show through decades of experience. They're replacing them with people who know noting about the show and it shows on screen! These aren't changes that are needed for THIS show. Lynn Latham is just asserting her power by all of these ridiculous changes. Lynn Latham had a lot of support, including me as her bigger supporter, BECAUSE of her great track record in primetime. But she is clearly not fit for a daytime soap. She admits she's only watched Y&R since 2004 when they had her prepping for the job. Anything before that she doesn't know or care about. The scripts on a day-to-day basis are full of continuity errors, not to mention the long term rewrites. She's changed EVERYTHING on the show, fired all the writers, all the producers, music people, casting director, directors, several key actors and she doesn't write for the majority that are arround. I gave her a chance, as did many on this board. I wasn't the only supporter of her last year. In fact, this board was very Y&R-positive with tons of posts. When the show began to suck and change too much, I complained. But I gave credit where credit was due. Unfortunately I now see the successes of 2006 were due to the execution Jack Smith, Kay Alden and the other Y&R writing staff who know the show. I know this is digressing from the main topic, but I HAD to respond to that! sactownfan, I have to ask, do you work for the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 QUOTE (Chris B @ Aug 22 2007, 01:49 PM) sactownfan, I have to ask, do you work for the show? I wondered the same thing. But I didn't ask beacuse either I wouldn't get an answer or the answer would be no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members aMLCproduction Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 i agree with you. Too many complaints. There are so many negative things that get posted. It outweighs the positive thats for sure. Soap fans are too picky and can never be pleased. I know a slew of people that has desired new blood, and when we get it, looks at what happens. lol Every single soap on the air right now has some type of complaint from fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 1991 - Nancy Curlee: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ClassicsSoapFan Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 I can remember during the Conboy reign at GL they used to list the breakdown writer and script writer at the beginning of the show. I was watching the show more often then I do now. Staneart's scripts were pretty good.Better then some of the writers who had been there longer. He started at GL as a writer's assistant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted August 22, 2007 Author Administrator Share Posted August 22, 2007 I think the complaints stem from the fact that Y&R never used to be a show who hires from outside sources. They would always promote from within. Also, add that they fired almost all of the people who worked their way up under Bill Bell. Y&R used to be the most stable staffed show which little changes. And in the past two years, they've made the most changes. 2006-2007. - Lynn Marie Latham first listed as co-Head Writer on February 16 - Scott Hamner first listed as story consultant on April 5 - Marc Hertz last listed as script writer on May 10 - Jim Houghton last listed as associate head writer on May 12 - Sally Sussman Morina last listed as story consultant on May 12 - John F. Smith last listed as Co-Executive Producer on May 12 - Janice Ferri Esser last listed as associate head writer on May 15 - Jim Houghton listed as script writer on May 17 - Janice Ferri listed as script writer on May 18 - Chris Abbott first listed as associate head writer on May 25 - Chris Abbott last listed as associate head writer on June 20 - Josh Griffith first listed as Creative Consultant on July 7 - Josh Griffith first listed as associate head writer on July 13 - Trent Jones last listed as associate head writer on July 18 - Jim Houghton last listed as script writer on July 25 - Scott Hamner first listed as associate head writer on August 4 - Paula Cwikly first listed as associate head writer on August 7 - Bernard Lechowick first listed as script writer on August 28 - Tom Casiello first listed as associate head writer on September 6 - Lynn Marie Latham first listed as Executive Producer on October 4 - Lynsey Dufour first listed as Script Writer on October 4 - Linda Schreiber back as Script Writer on October 5 - Janice Ferri Esser last lisetd as Script Writer on October 19 - Sally Sussman Morina last listed as Associate Head Writer on October 23 - Josh Griffith last listed as Creative Consultant on October 24 - Josh Griffith first listed as Co-Executive Producer on October 25 - Tom Casiello last listed as Associate Head Writer on October 25 - Scott Hamner last listed as story consultant on October 25 - Scott Hamner first listed as Co-Head Writer on October 26 - Janice Ferri Esser back as Associate Head Writer on October 30 - Kathryn Foster last listed as Producer on November 1 - James Stanley first listed as Associate Head Writer on November 3 - Josh Griffith last listed as associate head writer on November 7 - John F. Smith last listed as Co-Head Writer on November 10 - Rick Draughon first listed as Associate Head Writer on December 5 - Rick Draughon last listed as Associate Head Writer on December 12 - Cherie Bennett & Jeff Gottesfeld fist listed as Script Writers on December 15 - Kay Alden last listed as Co-Head Writer on December 22 - Sara A. Bibel last listed as Associate Head writer on December 22 - Lynn Marie Latham first listed as sole Head Writer on December 26 - Sara A. Bibel first listed as Script Writer on December 29 - Chris Abbott back as Associate Head Writer on January 2 - Lynsey Dufour first listed as Associate Head Writer on January 5 - Marina Alburger first listed as Associate Head Writer on January 10 - Joshua S. McCaffrey last listed as Script Writer on January 10 - Janice Ferri Esser last listed as Associate Head Writer on January 22 - Lynsey Dufour promoted to full time Associate Head Writer on January 23 - Janice Ferri Esser back as Script Writer on February 5 - Chris Abbott last listed as Associate Head Writer on February 16 - Chris Abbott first listed as Script Writer on February 27 - Jill Ackles first listed as Director on March 20 - Chris Abbott last listed as Script Writer on March 22 - Neil Landau first listed as Associate Head Writer on March 27 - Benard Lechowick first listed as Creative Consultant on May 2 - Benard Lechowick first listed as Associate Head Writer on May 2 - Janice Ferri Esser last listed as Script Writer on May 4 - Neil Landau last listed as Associate Head Writer on May 9 - Mike Denney last listed as Director on May 9 - Benard Lechowick back as Script Writer on May 14 - Marina Alburger first listed as Script Writer on May 28 - Cherie Bennett & Jeff Gottesfeld first listed as Associate Head Writers on June 6 - Jenelle Lindsay first listed as Script Writer on June 7 - Edward Scott last listed as Supervising Producer on June 15 - Anthony Morina first listed as Producer on June 18 - Barbara Bloom first/last listed as Associate Head Writer on June 29 - Jenelle Lindsay last listed as Script Writer on July 10 - Sara A. Bibel last listed as Associate Head Writer on July 16 - Vincent Latham Lechowick first listed as Script Writer on July 24 - Phideaux Xavier first listed as Director on July 25 - Valerie Ahern & Christian McLaughlin first listed as Associate Head Writers on July 27 - Paula Cwikly last listed as Associate Head Writer on August 3 - Brett Staneart first listed as Associate Head Writer on August 22 That's just an insane amount of movements. I think Y&R has had more changes in 2 years than it had in 20 years. LOL Y&R is a mess behind the scenes and I heard it's very tough to work there right now. Good luck to all the newbies there because they're going to need it. Some of them don't even make it past their first cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 Toups, that list is RIDICULOUS! I had no idea there had been so much movement. Good thing you don't count actors as well! After posting that, I'd really love to see if sactownfan thinks we're being too hard on LML or rushing to judge? It bugs me when people make it out like people complain for no reason, that simply is not true. Like I mentioned earlier, there was lots of positive Y&R discussion last year. In fact, it became one of the most popular soaps on the board. There's also positive discussion for PSNS, OLTL (things are improving), B&B and a mixed reaction for DAYS. I'd love if I had more positive things to discuss, but this isn't a great period for soaps. But I'll continue supporting Hollyoaks, B&B, PSNS and OLTL which are delivering these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R Sinclair Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 :blink: WHO IN THE HELL ARE THESE GHOSTWRITERS?! :blink: I was googling some research on Michele Val Jean (found an interesting One on One article with MVJ and Becky Herbst discussing the Elizabeth Rape storyline, but I digress...) and this came up. General Hospital: June 2007 Source June 1- BDW: Meg Bennett & Michael Conforti; SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 4- BDW: Garin Wolf; SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Scott McKinsey June 5- BDW: David Goldschmid; SW: Mary Sue Price; D: Owen Renfroe June 6- BDW: Nathan Fissel & Sasha Cartullo; SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Scott McKinsey June 7- BDW: Jim Reitzel & Heidi Ploen; SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 8- BDW: Michael Conforti & Elizabeth Korte; SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Scott McKinsey June 11- BDW: Garin Wolf & Michele Val Jean; SW: Mary Sue Price; D: Scott McKinsey June 12- BDW: David Goldschmid & Mary Sue Price; SW: Karen Harris; D: William Ludel June 13- BDW: Meg Bennett & Michael Conforti; SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Matthew Diamond June 14- BDW: Garin Wolf & Susan Wald; SW: Karen Harris; D: Owen Renfroe June 15- BDW: David Goldschmid & Karen Harris; SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 18- BDW: Nathan Fissel & Jim Reitzel; SW: Mary Sue Price; D: Scott McKinsey June 19- BDW: Sasha Cartullo & Heidi Ploen; SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Scott McKinsey June 20- BDW: Meg Bennett & Michael Conforti; SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Owen Renfroe June 21- BDW: Garin Wolf & Tracey Thomson; SW: Mary Sue Price; D: William Ludel June 22- BDW: David Goldschmid; SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 25- BDW: Michael Conforti; SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Matthew Diamond June 26- BDW: Garin Wolf; SW: Karen Harris; D: Scott McKinsey June 27- BDW: David Goldschmid; SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Craig McManus June 28- BDW: Michael Conforti; SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 29- BDW: Garin Wolf; SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Matthew Diamond Toups' Information June 1- SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 4- SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Scott Mckinsey June 5- SW: Mary Sue Price; D: Owen Renfroe June 6- SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Scott Mckinsey June 7- SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 8- SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Scott Mckinsey June 11- SW: Mary Sue Price; D: Scott Mckinsey June 12- SW: Karen Harris; D: William Ludel June 13- SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Matthew Diamond June 14- SW: Karen Harris; D: Owen Renfroe June 15- SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 18- SW: Mary Sue Price; D: Scott Mckinsey June 19- SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Scott Mckinsey June 20- SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Owen Renfroe June 21- SW: Mary Sue Price; D: William Ludel June 22- SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 25- SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Matthew Diamond June 26- SW: Karen Harris; D: Scott Mckinsey June 27- SW: Michele Val Jean; D: Craig McManus June 28- SW: Susan Wald; D: Matthew Diamond June 29- SW: Tracey Thomson; D: Matthew Diamond What the hell?! Okay, I know Meg Bennett is Guza's wife and former co-head writer from the 1997-2000 era. But the others?!? Heidi Ploen ?!?! Nathan Fissel ?!?! Jim Reitzel ?!? They're even listed on Wikipedia (which, I know, isn't the Gospel truth, but still...). What the hell is up with GH having ghostwriters writing breakdowns? I always found it rather odd that three breakdown writers would be writing 250 episodes a year, while the other ABC shows have five. Clarity? Anybody? Anyone at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Adam Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 R Sinclair, that is an interesting find and yes I always was interested as to why AMC and OLTL had a much bigger staff then GH. Hopefully Toups has some insight for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have no clue! But the info is shady. Although, I was glad to see Garin Wolf there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Faulkner Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 Wow, that list of Y&R changes is insane! What was LML thinking? Why try to reinvent the wheel on a show that just needed some tweaks? I blame Sony and CBS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 Posted 12 August 2007 09:44 PM Hide Post GENERAL HOSPITAL - Meg Bennett joins as Co-Head Writer on January 2 - Meg Bennett joins as Breakdown Writer on February 1 - Elizabeth Korte first listed as Breakdown Writer on February 7 - Michele Val Jean first listed as Breakdown Writer on February 8 - Mary Sue Price first listed as Breakdown Writer on February 8 - Susan Wald first listed as Breakdown Writer on February 8 - Karen Harris first listed as Breakdown Writer on February 8 - Meg Bennett becomes Head Writer on March 5 - John F. Smith leaves as Story Consultant in early Spring - Meg Bennett becomes Co-Head Writer on Apr 16 - Nathan Fissel first listed as Breakdown Writer on May 7 - Sasha Cartullo first listed as Breakdown Writer on May 8 - Jim Reitzel first listed as Breakdown Writer on May 9 - Heidi Ploen first listed as Breakdown Writer on May 10 - Elizabeth Korte returns as Breakdown Writer on May 11 - Michele Val Jean returns as Breakdown Writer on May 14 - Mary Sue Price returns as Breakdown Writer on May 15 - Susan Wald returns as Breakdown Writer on May 16 - Karen Harris returns as Breakdown Writer on May 17 - Tracey Thomson first listed as Breakdown Writer on May 18 - Meg Bennett becomes Head Writer on May 21 - Meg Bennett becomes Co-Head Writer on July 2 - Danielle Faraldo first listed as Director on August 3 - Phideaux Xavier first lised as Director on August 7 Here. P. S. I like the terminology (becomes etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted August 22, 2007 Author Administrator Share Posted August 22, 2007 I have no idea where they got that information about episode breakdown writers. It could be true if they list the BDW on the scripts. So it must be somebody on the production staff who leaked that info out. I only go by what airs on screen. - Nathan Fissel is the Writers' Assistant - Heidi Ploen & Jim Reitzel are Script Coordinators - Sasha Cartullo dose Script Continuity Also, it makes so sense for Meg Bennett to be listed as Co-HW on the scripts (if it is) but not on the tv credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dr. Jay S.W. Posted August 22, 2007 Members Share Posted August 22, 2007 Exactly. The OLTL credits on that same site, call Carolyn Culliton, and OLTL's other Script writers, breakdown writers on dates, where they arent even on the credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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